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jalan48

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58. Yes, it's a race to the bottom.

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 11:54 AM

Sep 2015

Reagan's dirty little wars in Central America during the 80's are also to blame. Our military actions disrupted long standing subsistence farming, forcing people off their lands and into the cities. I don't blame the families for fleeing the hell hole we helped create. The problem is that we, as a people, are not trying to solve the problem. We simply blame the immigrant while the businesses and corporations increase their profits. Not to mention the fact that worker's unions are further eroded in the process.

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The Perfect Argument To Shut Down �Illegals Are Stealing Our Jobs� Rhetoric [View all] kpete Sep 2015 OP

Perfect. daleanime Sep 2015 #1

You agree with this? Travis_0004 Sep 2015 #6

Yes. Chan790 Sep 2015 #7

Ah, 'Get a better job!' Bonx Sep 2015 #10

In this case, it's true. Chan790 Sep 2015 #12

Pull yourself up by your own bootstraps! Throd Sep 2015 #14

If you want to make an absolute fortune in the trades with no illegal competition it's piss easy whatthehey Sep 2015 #19

In an ideal job market this is true. Bonx Sep 2015 #15

The sign said nothing about being skilled or unskilled, or owning their own tools. Brickbat Sep 2015 #17

Good to know Travis_0004 Sep 2015 #18

My next door neighbor is notorious for hiring benld74 Sep 2015 #73

no, they're in competition with contractors that have crews of illegal immigrants TheFarseer Sep 2015 #72

It is called Illegal Employment mikeysnot Sep 2015 #11

Obama has fined and jailed many, many times as many 'illegal' employers as any other president. pampango Sep 2015 #22

THIS is the problem, and "guest worker" programs have basically made this kind of employment "legal" cascadiance Sep 2015 #62

Your post.... quickesst Sep 2015 #20

You should have set your sights higher. Travis_0004 Sep 2015 #23

Construction... quickesst Sep 2015 #35

Quite a few members here who have never got their fingers dirty or broke a sweat to earn their pay Ikonoklast Sep 2015 #69

That is precisely because they are illegally here and can't demand minimum wage treestar Sep 2015 #21

Yes, I am tired of people kicking down and kissing up.... daleanime Sep 2015 #26

The vast California nut, legume, fruit and vegetable fields, etc., will not be picked for cheap by white folks. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #29

From the article Travis_0004 Sep 2015 #38

Why do you want a discussion of the high end job troubles of only a few white people?? Ever been to an IT campus??? Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #39

Is it the small numbers or ryan_cats Sep 2015 #45

No! It is not the defintion!! But your posts obviously show you are getting warm... Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #50

Not an answer. ryan_cats Sep 2015 #53

Not a question. Permission denied! Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #55

Do you hate the small numbers or? ryan_cats Sep 2015 #57

My experience in the IT field padfun Sep 2015 #46

+1 historylovr Sep 2015 #61

taxes, fees and insurance make up between 25-40% of the cost of a legal employer's bid questionseverything Sep 2015 #81

Good one! treestar Sep 2015 #2

A willingness to work on the cheap and off the books is a desirable skill for many employers. Brickbat Sep 2015 #3

Ah, the smug look of someone 17 years old who has all the answers. ryan_cats Sep 2015 #4

+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Sep 2015 #5

The smug look of a 17 year old with all the answered are often LanternWaste Sep 2015 #8

A child shall lead us. ryan_cats Sep 2015 #24

You don't think she's framed any houses ? Bonx Sep 2015 #13

Smug look of being correct..the jobs being "stolen" will not be done by the folks in the lawn chair! Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #28

Smug look of being MISLEAD, when it is the employers that don't want to pay a LIVING WAGE!!! cascadiance Sep 2015 #64

As long as they're not taking I/T jobs it is all just fine. Throd Sep 2015 #9

Any IT jobs being stolen are being taken 'legally'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #76

Doug Stanhope's been doing a bit like that for years. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2015 #16

+1 treestar Sep 2015 #60

She sounds like a business owner using undocumented workers to steal wages from working people. jtuck004 Sep 2015 #25

Immigrants are being Swift-boated. That can not stand. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #27

STOP the corn subsidy WELFARE American taxpayers give Ag companies then... cascadiance Sep 2015 #65

Donald Trump's take on this appeals to many, not just GOP. Disgusting to see. Hoyt Sep 2015 #30

Disgusting is the operative word for some of the uniformed comments on a DU thread indeed! Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #33

If job stealing is the real issue then we should be fining the hell out of businesses that hire them jalan48 Sep 2015 #31

This is the proper answer. Union craftsman make a decent wage because hedgehog Sep 2015 #41

THAT, that is the answer. 'fining the hell out of businesses that hire them' ryan_cats Sep 2015 #49

jalan48 kpete Sep 2015 #54

Yes, it's a race to the bottom. jalan48 Sep 2015 #58

That's why the GOP and their talk of wall building are TexasBushwhacker Sep 2015 #77

So very sorry - you are wrong here SoLeftIAmRight Sep 2015 #32

So very wrong...What you say is what is said by all the RW xenophobes since time began...none of the economic experts...I go with the economic experts. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #34

NO NO NO SoLeftIAmRight Sep 2015 #40

Sorry, I still go with the American economic expert's consensus opinions on the American situation. Thst is just me. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #42

American economic expert's consensus SoLeftIAmRight Sep 2015 #47

Are you on the right site??? Anyway, my work here is done. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #52

Really? SoLeftIAmRight Sep 2015 #56

Yep Go Vols Sep 2015 #37

Immigrants (illegal or otherwise) are not mentioned at the link you provided. Abusive employers pampango Sep 2015 #48

Pictures speak louder than words? Go Vols Sep 2015 #66

What picture? The 3 striking workers interviewed were Black, Hispanic and White. pampango Sep 2015 #70

What convinced me Go Vols Sep 2015 #71

Well that's a "picture" only you would know. I thought I had mssed something. n/t pampango Sep 2015 #79

The whole reason there was a middle class after the Black Plague.... dirtydickcheney Sep 2015 #63

No Democrat is promoting illegal immigration. (Though you wouldn't know that listening to the GOP.) pampango Sep 2015 #36

Another good comment on how the Right exploits all immigration, hedgehog Sep 2015 #43

Amnesia. Folks willingly or not have amnesia over the comprehensive immigration plan passed in Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #44

That is a great argument against Trump's stupid claims Gothmog Sep 2015 #51

Gothmog kpete Sep 2015 #59

That meme is so very very true Gothmog Sep 2015 #78

Try this: ryan_cats Sep 2015 #83

Her comment is not 100% true SummerSnow Sep 2015 #67

I don't like this sign gd770226 Sep 2015 #68

I'll believe either party is serious about "cracking down" . . . hatrack Sep 2015 #74

+1 Rex Sep 2015 #82

Not the perfect argument. moondust Sep 2015 #75

The billionaires love this kind of thinking. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2015 #80

Fuck Her! Munificence Sep 2015 #84

I vote we let MORE illegal aliens in Nevernose Sep 2015 #85