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True Blue Door

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Thu Sep 3, 2015, 02:23 PM Sep 2015

So, looks like (knock on wood) the Iran deal is done. Nobel Peace Prize #2, anyone? [View all]

This President...

1. Completely reversed the course of US policy toward Iran that he inherited, which had been marching directly toward war on the same fabricated bases as Iraq.

2. Defied the very powerful AIPAC and the raving blowhard currently in control of the Israeli government.

3. Brought one of the most anti-American governments on Earth to the table in concert with other nations and created a consensus for peace that will protect the region both from nuclear proliferation and Republifascist aggression.

4. (Apparently) created enough Congressional support for the deal to cement it, again knock on wood.

Oh, and let's not forget that other thing...

5. Reestablished relations with Cuba after half a century.

I say it would be an outrage to not give Barack Obama another Nobel Peace Prize. One for Kerry too.

We can't know for certain whether peace will be achieved because of the deal, but that's always been true of all peace deals. Nobody could know if the Camp David Accords would hold. Nobody could know if the United Nations would continue to exist or just dissolve in a few years in chaos like the League of Nations had. But Nobel Peace Prizes are awarded to those who build the roads to peace, whether or not people walk them.

Maybe the Iranian government is the cartoon character of evil they are portrayed as and that their actions often suggest. Maybe the US government is so full of frothing, psychopathic Republican murderers that they will erase the deal and start a war the next time they are in control. Maybe both. Or maybe, just maybe, this is enough to do the next thing, and the next, and the next that heals the wounds of time between two nations.

If this deal holds and yet does not result in Nobel Peace Prizes, it will clearly be a politically-motivated oversight by people who do not hold the values they claim.

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One of the greatest accomplishments in American foreign policy history, if not THE greatest. randys1 Sep 2015 #1
I wouldn't say THE greatest. The UN, the Marshall Plan, etc. are way bigger. But it is big. True Blue Door Sep 2015 #4
Yeah, that is why I conditioned it. But it drives righty nuts when I slightly exaggerate his randys1 Sep 2015 #6
True. It's always fun to drive them into a froth. True Blue Door Sep 2015 #11
IMO, Obama is doing what he is supposed to do, as President of the United States. djean111 Sep 2015 #2
How does that attitude help? True Blue Door Sep 2015 #7
Someone explain the 24 days notice for inspections. Why so long? Nt Logical Sep 2015 #3
2 weeks isn't enough time to hide what they don't want to show GummyBearz Sep 2015 #5
You can hide, but you can't hide the fact that you're hiding something. True Blue Door Sep 2015 #8
i guess we will find out (or not) GummyBearz Sep 2015 #9
Thanks for the Breitbart.com nonsense talking point. geek tragedy Sep 2015 #12
Hint: depends on the half life of the radioactive material GummyBearz Sep 2015 #16
are you confused by the concept of declared sites vs nondeclared sites? geek tragedy Sep 2015 #17
Thank you for clearing that part up GummyBearz Sep 2015 #18
sorry for being short with you, there's a lot of misinformation geek tragedy Sep 2015 #19
"Iran deal opponents now have their "death panels" lie, and it's a whopper" geek tragedy Sep 2015 #10
Thanks for this, explains it. Nt Logical Sep 2015 #13
That's just one of the things leftynyc Sep 2015 #14
As I understand it tech3149 Sep 2015 #15
They wouldn't give it to Obama himself muriel_volestrangler Sep 2015 #20
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