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Fri Sep 4, 2015, 03:03 PM Sep 2015

I Used to Work as a Scientist with GMOs—Now I'm Having Serious Second Thoughts About The Risks [View all]

I believe that GMO crops still run far ahead of our understanding of their risks.

By Jonathan Latham, PhD September 2, 2015

By training, I am a plant biologist. In the early 1990s I was busy making genetically modified plants (often called GMOs for Genetically Modified Organisms) as part of the research that led to my PhD. Into these plants we were putting DNA from various foreign organisms, such as viruses and bacteria.


If that salad dressing in your fridge
contains soybean oil it's probably GMO


I was not, at the outset, concerned about the possible effects of GM plants on human health or the environment. One reason for this lack of concern was that I was still a very young scientist, feeling my way in the complex world of biology and of scientific research. Another reason was that we hardly imagined that GMOs like ours would be grown or eaten. So far as I was concerned, all GMOs were for research purposes only.

Gradually, however, it became clear that certain companies thought differently. Some of my older colleagues shared their skepticism with me that commercial interests were running far ahead of scientific knowledge. I listened carefully...snip

The Flawed Processes of GMO Risk Assessment...snip

The Dangers of GMOs

Aside from grave doubts about the quality and integrity of risk assessments, I also have specific science-based concerns over GMOs. I emphasise the ones below because they are important but are not on the lists that GMO critics often make.

Many GMO plants are engineered to contain their own insecticides. These GMOs, which include maize, cotton and soybeans, are called Bt plants. Bt plants get their name because they incorporate a transgene that makes a protein-based toxin (usually called the Cry toxin) from the bacterium Bacillus thuringiensis. Many Bt crops are “stacked,” meaning they contain a multiplicity of these Cry toxins...snip


Most candy in the US contains GMO products

The True Purpose of GMOs

...The commercial purpose of GMOs is not to feed the world or improve farming. Rather, they exist to gain intellectual property (i.e. patent rights)...snip
Read More: http://www.alternet.org/food/i-used-work-scientist-gmos-now-im-having-serious-second-thoughts-about-risks

Bioscience Resource Project

The Bioscience Resource Project is a public interest organization that describes itself as providing independent research and analysis in the agriculture-related biosciences since 2006. In 2011, they started Independent Science News, a website providing news and critical comment on topics where food, agriculture, and biotechnology impact human health and the environment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioscience_Resource_Project

Jonathan R Latham, PhD Co-founder and Executive Director of the Bioscience Resource Project; Editor of the Independent Science News website. Dr. Latham holds a Masters degree in Crop Genetics and a PhD in Virology. He was subsequently a postdoctoral research associate in the Department of Genetics, University of Wisconsin, Madison. Prior to heading the Bioscience Resource Project he published scientific papers in disciplines as diverse as plant ecology, plant virology and genetics. He regularly presents at scientific conferences on papers published by the Bioscience Resource Project. He is also a fellow of the 21st Century Trust.
http://www.bioscienceresource.org/about-us/our-staff/




Obama in 2007: "We'll let folks know whether their food has been genetically modified because Americans should know what they're buying"

64 Countries require labeling of GMO foods


Green: Mandatory labeling Red:Ban on import and cultivation of GMOs 64 countries as of 10 May 2015. Source: Center for Food Safety
http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/issues/976/ge-food-labeling/international-labeling-laws
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So we are going to become immune to weed killer? Rex Sep 2015 #1
+1,000,000 ... 000 HuckleB Sep 2015 #2
If I smoke enough of it will my body just start producing the THC? Rex Sep 2015 #5
Maybe you can make those alt med colleges in Oregon legit! HuckleB Sep 2015 #10
We will start with a new college wide curriculum and syllabus! Rex Sep 2015 #11
No, we're breeding superweed! nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #76
Interesting background regarding the author. HuckleB Sep 2015 #3
The DVD "The Word According to Monsanto" discusses how Monsanto attacks any critics. n/t Skwmom Sep 2015 #6
A non-peer reviewed attack movie claims that others act unethically? HuckleB Sep 2015 #8
There is no such evidence. immoderate Sep 2015 #12
I too like to call things "attacks" simply because they don't hold the same position as I do LanternWaste Sep 2015 #16
Your response seems to have missed the context of the actual discussion. HuckleB Sep 2015 #17
Watch out, or she'll call you a half-wit Orrex Sep 2015 #48
Oh, I am a quarter-wit, so no problem there. HuckleB Sep 2015 #50
Nice! Orrex Sep 2015 #55
Multiplication is hard. Don't scare people!!! HuckleB Sep 2015 #56
you mean the evidence provided by Monsanto's scientists? noiretextatique Sep 2015 #18
You mean a claim that the movie made that is not valid in reality? HuckleB Sep 2015 #19
There's a lot on that link. GitRDun Sep 2015 #27
This "scientists" theory is not supported by science. HuckleB Sep 2015 #32
Who's Seralini? n/t GitRDun Sep 2015 #34
Google: Seralini Science Based Medicine. HuckleB Sep 2015 #37
OK I see he's a guy that did an ant-GMO study that had to be retracted. GitRDun Sep 2015 #42
No, everything he has done about GMOs has been shown to be baseless. HuckleB Sep 2015 #51
I don't fail to realize it because you provide no information, just hyperbole GitRDun Sep 2015 #60
You're not new to this topic at all. HuckleB Sep 2015 #63
hahahahahaha my responses? GitRDun Sep 2015 #70
And Cherry Picking hits the board. HuckleB Sep 2015 #71
I don't know anything about the topic, how can I prove anything? GitRDun Sep 2015 #72
...so the Pro crowd is using Ad Executives and Monsanto Lobbyists to certify their "science"? bvar22 Sep 2015 #104
One thing I have learned GitRDun Sep 2015 #105
Let's suppose GMOs are safe, of which I am in no way convinced... Hun Joro Sep 2015 #38
Roundup is not a GMO. HuckleB Sep 2015 #97
Roundup is widely used on GMO Roundup-Ready crops. Hun Joro Sep 2015 #106
It is used on many non-GMO crops. HuckleB Sep 2015 #116
Show me several decades of evidence as to the safety of GMO's, Mr HuckleB. truedelphi Sep 2015 #39
That's a whole stew of conspiracy via bad correlation. HuckleB Sep 2015 #95
Of course there is a lot of "research" on GMO's -- truedelphi Sep 2015 #107
And your anti-science nonsense continues. HuckleB Sep 2015 #109
No evidence from science shows GMOs to be safe... modestybl Sep 2015 #45
Your post is completely based in fiction. HuckleB Sep 2015 #49
And of course all the European countries totally agree with you... NOT. erronis Sep 2015 #58
"The European Countries." HuckleB Sep 2015 #61
The drones have become a bit more human-seeming. erronis Sep 2015 #65
And the shill gambit hits!!!! Shocking. HuckleB Sep 2015 #67
Maybe....it is because the science doesn't support them? (nt) LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #74
It's all a conspiracy. NuclearDem Sep 2015 #96
Can YOU support your claims with actual Science? bvar22 Sep 2015 #103
I have done so. HuckleB Sep 2015 #111
Tens of millions of people in Europe stand with the science done by Serralini. truedelphi Sep 2015 #108
No, they don't. HuckleB Sep 2015 #110
You are simply wrong... and of course offer nothing to back up your claim... modestybl Sep 2015 #100
UCS has long been criticized for its anti-science posts about GMOs. HuckleB Sep 2015 #114
Criticized by scientists whose grants are funded by the industry? modestybl Sep 2015 #148
You actually linked to Seralini's group? HuckleB Sep 2015 #151
Ad hominem attacks or industry propaganda does not make an argument... modestybl Sep 2015 #156
BTW, industry-backed attacks does not equal "debunking" modestybl Sep 2015 #157
Seralini fan Major Nikon Sep 2015 #14
Yikes. I hadn't quite gotten that far. HuckleB Sep 2015 #15
What's your background? brentspeak Sep 2015 #91
In other words, you can't discuss the topic. HuckleB Sep 2015 #94
DVDs (Genetic Roulette,The World According to Monsanto) Book (Altered Genes, Twisted Truth.. Skwmom Sep 2015 #4
Bad propaganda by people who don't understand how science works is not worth watching. HuckleB Sep 2015 #9
(A very RESPECTED) Scientist that discovered GMO health hazards immediately fired, Skwmom Sep 2015 #29
Respected by Natural News? HuckleB Sep 2015 #31
I just googled to find a reference, but it is a well known fact that it occurred. n/t Skwmom Sep 2015 #86
LOL! Conspiracy web pages are so much fun. Oh, goodness. HuckleB Sep 2015 #89
Green for victory!!...nt SidDithers Sep 2015 #7
Bookmarked libodem Sep 2015 #13
So you recommended this without reading it, and questioning it? HuckleB Sep 2015 #20
I recently served on a jury for your impertinent comments libodem Sep 2015 #21
So you don't have anything to say about the topic, just about me. HuckleB Sep 2015 #23
Thanks for posting, nationalize the fed. There must become a mass movement against gmos. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #22
Can we please just have food that is naturally occurring me b zola Sep 2015 #24
Most of us want to continue eating. HuckleB Sep 2015 #25
Pesticides Glassunion Sep 2015 #28
You might want to look at things a bit more globally. HuckleB Sep 2015 #30
I'm not against GMOs. Glassunion Sep 2015 #40
So then read what I posted, and respond to the content of that post. HuckleB Sep 2015 #53
It is only okay with the Corporate-controlled government agencies and truedelphi Sep 2015 #35
Naturally occuring, as if other forms of breeding crops is natural. Nailzberg Sep 2015 #120
Yawn. NuclearDem Sep 2015 #26
What a stupid comment. Yawn a bit more and have a cucumber. erronis Sep 2015 #62
Speaking of stupid comments. NuclearDem Sep 2015 #75
Caution is the watchword in tinkering with complex systems Fairgo Sep 2015 #33
And yet GE technology changes the fewest number of genes and is studied the most, by far. HuckleB Sep 2015 #36
Actually every single cell truedelphi Sep 2015 #131
Every single cell of any plant from all seed development technologies is changed. HuckleB Sep 2015 #137
Chaos theory PADemD Sep 2015 #44
... Duppers Sep 2015 #47
I see the usual suspects are here to shit on anything that threatens their... blackspade Sep 2015 #41
Yawn. NuclearDem Sep 2015 #43
I agree, your schtick is getting old. blackspade Sep 2015 #52
Reality is a really bad Schtick. HuckleB Sep 2015 #54
Your so right. The reality of GMO propagandists is a really bad schtick. blackspade Sep 2015 #59
Anti-GMO lies are always lies. No argument about that. HuckleB Sep 2015 #64
Ah, Facts are lies now... blackspade Sep 2015 #66
Name one fact that is a lie in your bizarre, Orwellian universe. HuckleB Sep 2015 #68
Oh noes! Not again! blackspade Sep 2015 #79
As usual, you can't support any of your claims. HuckleB Sep 2015 #81
And what claim would that be? blackspade Sep 2015 #92
Your concern is that critics of this nonsense OP will be here. HuckleB Sep 2015 #93
My 'concern' is that legitimate issues with GMO and GMO related... blackspade Sep 2015 #102
When it comes to actual science, there is not much of a middle. HuckleB Sep 2015 #115
Actually there seems to be quite a bit of middle ground on a variety of fronts. blackspade Sep 2015 #122
The Grist series is great, and it makes reality very clear. HuckleB Sep 2015 #125
I think you may need to re read my post. blackspade Sep 2015 #133
No, you didn't answer the question. HuckleB Sep 2015 #134
So much for a constructive conversation. blackspade Sep 2015 #138
Since you have chosen to ignore most information that goes against your preconceptions... HuckleB Sep 2015 #139
So you have reduced yourself to post stalking now.... blackspade Sep 2015 #140
I'm just making sure that we're clear here. HuckleB Sep 2015 #141
You still haven't answered my question..... blackspade Sep 2015 #142
I have a lot of nice organic, non-GM popcorn around. truedelphi Sep 2015 #121
There is no GMO popcorn. HuckleB Sep 2015 #126
So technically I was incorrect. truedelphi Sep 2015 #130
There's nothing technical about it. And you're wrong about your new claim, as well. HuckleB Sep 2015 #135
Why do you hate reality? HuckleB Sep 2015 #57
Seriously, you need sleep. LeftOfWest Sep 2015 #132
I was asleep long before your meaningless post. HuckleB Sep 2015 #136
What tipped you off? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #77
Snort! blackspade Sep 2015 #80
DERP. HuckleB Sep 2015 #84
Oh, that's right, you're the guy who can't handle actual science. HuckleB Sep 2015 #85
Bookmarked. Thank you for posting this. Duppers Sep 2015 #46
Label GMOs and let the free market decide. My family will continue eating organic, & free range peacebird Sep 2015 #69
Yep. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #78
In other words, you don't need fake labels. HuckleB Sep 2015 #83
What a word salad. NutmegYankee Sep 2015 #73
Prove your ridiculous claim with word by word evidence. HuckleB Sep 2015 #82
Simple. NutmegYankee Sep 2015 #87
I'm curious. NutmegYankee Sep 2015 #99
This Guy Made The American Loons List For His Bad Science HuckleB Sep 2015 #88
Some guy with a blog protecting Industry is not "science". eom cprise Sep 2015 #123
Some folks who actually care about science showing reality is science. HuckleB Sep 2015 #128
That was back in Senator Obama's unscientific phase. Wall Street has taught him all about GoneFishin Sep 2015 #90
The anti-GMO Million Dollar Question. HuckleB Sep 2015 #98
The heavy doses of Round-up many GMO's have been engineered to withstand. pnwmom Sep 2015 #113
Unlike what pesticides? Major Nikon Sep 2015 #153
Evidently any attempts to answer that question have sputtered and fizzled out Major Nikon Sep 2015 #152
Predictably, the Monsanto shareholders among us chimed in first villager Sep 2015 #101
The big question for you and all people who make such ugly attacks. HuckleB Sep 2015 #112
Here's the really fun part Major Nikon Sep 2015 #144
And you can't!!!! HuckleB Sep 2015 #117
A scientist, and he cites wiki? Nailzberg Sep 2015 #118
I eat reeses almost daily ecstatic Sep 2015 #119
This GMO crap has infiltrated the entire US food supply nationalize the fed Sep 2015 #124
Why do you think it's ok to call safe food "crap?" HuckleB Sep 2015 #127
"a protein-based toxin"... thecrow Sep 2015 #129
It's possible the decline in the pirate population is causing global warming Major Nikon Sep 2015 #143
WTF, Nikon? thecrow Sep 2015 #146
You stole my line! Major Nikon Sep 2015 #147
Kick to read later PatSeg Sep 2015 #145
Just say no to the GMO. nt Zorra Sep 2015 #149
also reading & real science. Bonx Sep 2015 #150
But that doesn't rhyme Major Nikon Sep 2015 #154
Why? HuckleB Sep 2015 #155
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