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grasswire

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18. growth is not inevitable...

Fri Sep 4, 2015, 10:45 PM

Sep 2015

...and the destruction of beautiful established neighborhoods is strongly resented. All for the buck in the developer's pocket (and maybe one in the pocket of the city council, too).

Look to the example of Petaluma California as a model for restricting growth. In the 1970s, Petaluma took steps to limit permits for new housing drastically. The city's right to do this was upheld in court all the way to the Supreme Court, which refused to hear the action against Petaluma.

Growth is not inevitable. Not everyone who wants to move to a particular city has any right to do so if there is no room for growth or desire of the populace for it (as expressed through elected city council members).

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Oregonians putting 'No Californians' stickers on for sale signs [View all] Liberal_in_LA Sep 2015 OP

I've heard that some people in Oregon and LuvNewcastle Sep 2015 #1

The "Don't Californicate (State)" slogan has been used for decades Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2015 #2

Yup. I remember the Californicate thing icymist Sep 2015 #3

Actually started late 1970's..... dixiegrrrrl Sep 2015 #14

When visiting Utah I saw a sign there that stated.. yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #62

Hatred of Californians has been going on in Washington for years. cpwm17 Sep 2015 #4

They can shove their state CountAllVotes Sep 2015 #29

the reason for the signs make no sense dsc Sep 2015 #5

Sellers aren't putting the stickers on 1939 Sep 2015 #9

oh that makes sense then. dsc Sep 2015 #12

The sellers are not leaving OR. former9thward Sep 2015 #45

25+ years ago in western Colorado kiva Sep 2015 #6

Problem is 1939 Sep 2015 #7

San Andreas will be like a hiccup compared moonscape Sep 2015 #15

Yeah. I've lived in both states. Arugula Latte Sep 2015 #48

I also was in Loma Prieta - very moonscape Sep 2015 #64

It won't slide into the Pacific... JHB Sep 2015 #26

CA used to be an island, it will be again Gormy Cuss Sep 2015 #27

Masshole is used by many in the Northeast dorkzilla Sep 2015 #61

they're not popular in the northern front range fizzgig Sep 2015 #37

It's not our fault that all those Oregonians and Washingtonians chose to petronius Sep 2015 #8

when people in the other 49 states want a fresh start they head to calif Liberal_in_LA Sep 2015 #39

The placement of the stickers is vandalism. virgogal Sep 2015 #10

deliverance hillbillies reddread Sep 2015 #11

when the Juan de Fuca plate slips Californians will help even those with hater stickers lol nt msongs Sep 2015 #13

Aw, isn't that cute? Iggo Sep 2015 #16

Housing is a huge issue in Portland right now. Elad Sep 2015 #17

growth is not inevitable... grasswire Sep 2015 #18

It's the anti-growth nimbys that's causing rents to skyrocket taught_me_patience Sep 2015 #20

no, it's not grasswire Sep 2015 #23

Interesting. Elad Sep 2015 #21

Here in my state teach me everything Sep 2015 #31

Portland is where the loser rejects from LA move to taught_me_patience Sep 2015 #19

The funny thing is when I think of Portland I don't think of hipsters Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2015 #22

Inferior to Los Angeles? LoveIsNow Sep 2015 #32

Portland is a beautiful city with really progressive programs in place Cleita Sep 2015 #34

PORTLAND DOESN'T HAVE ~~FREE~~ PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. Tri Met costs $$ trueblue2007 Sep 2015 #58

Don't you? I haven't been there in fifteen years but it seems you once did. Cleita Sep 2015 #60

Yes, that is correct. There was a free zone downtown. Arugula Latte Sep 2015 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #40

I live in Portland. I've been to LA several times...You can keep it. Arugula Latte Sep 2015 #49

Fuck Californians davidpdx Sep 2015 #24

Oh, yes. Please do. Iggo Sep 2015 #25

Now be nice... yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #63

Except you davidpdx Sep 2015 #65

aww yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #66

Heard Oregon says in one way or another No to many types of people lunasun Sep 2015 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #41

I live in Oregon and don't feel that way CanonRay Sep 2015 #30

thanks Liberal_in_LA Sep 2015 #38

sacramentans shanti Sep 2015 #70

The salmon are running right now in the Siuslaw at Florence CanonRay Sep 2015 #71

Nothing new. Back in the nineteen nineties the bumper Cleita Sep 2015 #33

people everywhere are sick of other people olddots Sep 2015 #35

Too bad Oregon can't move south Politicalboi Sep 2015 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #42

I agree. Seems like almost half of the people I know here in Oregon (myself included) Arugula Latte Sep 2015 #50

Some VERY fragile California egos on display in this thread. pa28 Sep 2015 #43

Growing up in the west and living in many places I can say that this anti-California thing is as old Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #44

Oregon's beloved Gov. Tom McCall shared the "don't move here" sentiment oregonjen Sep 2015 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author MerryBlooms Sep 2015 #56

I'm a Southern Californian who went to college in Portland. ellisonz Sep 2015 #47

We had a California-type summer in Portland this year. Arugula Latte Sep 2015 #51

I tried to stay in Portland one summer. ellisonz Sep 2015 #54

Humidity? Really? Arugula Latte Sep 2015 #59

I was going to say, 'fuck them-- how dare they generalize us'... but then I realized... Marr Sep 2015 #52

So Oregonian realtors dislike high prices on houses they sell? delrem Sep 2015 #53

It's not the realtors putting the stickers on the signs. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2015 #55

OK - that makes more sense. delrem Sep 2015 #57

When the houses in Reseda (just an example) tripled in value in the late DiverDave Sep 2015 #67

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #68

I'm sorry, Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #72