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In reply to the discussion: someone just sent me an IM [View all]underthematrix
(5,811 posts)4. I think this explains it
However, a Guardian investigation in April revealed a non-disclosure agreement that local police and prosecutors were forced to sign with the FBI before using the Stingray devices, which mandated them to withdraw or even drop cases rather than risk revealing Stingray use.
Electronic surveillance is necessary mainly because so many Americans lack a moral compass and no longer agree that we live by the rule of law. This is the reality of livng in America.
If 2000 cases are overturned, so be it. Those people will be released into the state of Maryland. I live in California. We have whole towns in California under surveillance and you know what, they don't have vermuch crime. I think that's where we're headed.
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Yes many people post duplicates and then are shocked when the duplicates are ignored.
Doctor_J
Sep 2015
#22
My point was the cases should be reviewed. And whatever evidence the defense is legally entitled
underthematrix
Sep 2015
#29
The ones doing the spying are also "shitty self-absorbed ignorant people", not benevolent overlords.
arcane1
Sep 2015
#26
" i believe we need surveillance because we as mericans are a shitty self-absorbed ignorant people."
neverforget
Sep 2015
#35
It's really not that silly. This is not the level of surveillance that is required.
underthematrix
Sep 2015
#36
So, you're just going to lay this at the feet of atheists/agnostics/nones?
AtheistCrusader
Sep 2015
#47
How about putting them on the oligarchs, ceos and boards, bankers, that's who the real criminals are
Dont call me Shirley
Sep 2015
#52
There is no way in hell that is the only law enforcement agency using those things illegally. n/t
jtuck004
Sep 2015
#7
Yep, cops would set those up in parking lots at Phish shows, and if someone, say, texted their buddy
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#30
The stingray. Cops would set those up in the parking lots of Phish shows
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#55