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Showing Original Post only (View all)Amanda Marcotte: No, Porn Addiction Is Not Really A Thing [View all]
Porn Addiction Is Often Just an Attempt to Medicalize Religious Dogma
[font size=1]If this were in any sharper focus, you'd be a porn addict right now.[/font]
(emphasis added)
In this piece in Christianity Today, for instance, Shaun Groves claims that "most of my friends" are addicted to porn; the "addiction" he describes consists of subscribing to Playboy and buying a few videos. Pastor Justin Davis's apparent rock-bottom moment was when his wife caught him watching some titillating TV. On the website Every Man's Battle, addiction is defined as having private thoughts about women in skimpy clothes. Winning the war for purity seems to slap the label "addict" on you if you masturbate.
It is true, as Todd VanDerWerff explains at Vox, that conservative Christians classify all "lust" for people not your spouse as sinful and even adulterous. The medicalizing language turns a sin into a disease; it forces "addicts" to live their lives in a state of minute-to-minute dread of their bodily urges and become dependent on the church to get them through this basically impossible journey.
There are certainly men out there who use porn so much it interferes with the rest of their life, which means they need help. But these Christian "porn addicts" mostly seem like perfectly normal men who, like most people, need a bit of a private fantasy life. Instead, there's all this drama about rehab and redemption. That puts way more strain on people's marriages than simply letting people have some alone time once in awhile.
It is true, as Todd VanDerWerff explains at Vox, that conservative Christians classify all "lust" for people not your spouse as sinful and even adulterous. The medicalizing language turns a sin into a disease; it forces "addicts" to live their lives in a state of minute-to-minute dread of their bodily urges and become dependent on the church to get them through this basically impossible journey.
There are certainly men out there who use porn so much it interferes with the rest of their life, which means they need help. But these Christian "porn addicts" mostly seem like perfectly normal men who, like most people, need a bit of a private fantasy life. Instead, there's all this drama about rehab and redemption. That puts way more strain on people's marriages than simply letting people have some alone time once in awhile.
Shaming people for perfectly normal behavior.. An old playbook, to be sure, but one the fundamentalists and control ninnies are still using. "Get thee to church, and be sure to bring your checkbook!"
Yes, and how handy for culture warrior Duggar to be able blame his own hypocrisy and fucked up-ness (which clearly goes way beyond watching sex vids on youporn) on the smutty, hedonistic culture at large, i.e. "Aha! The devil made me do it".
How, as they say, conveeeeenient.
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I don't think that someone who masturbates regularly is an "addict", do you?
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#12
Agreed. I think you can become addicted to a lot of different things. It's just not as easy as with
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#16
And yet these religious right or other ideologically motivated outfits define it ALL as "addiction".
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#31
Surprising that no one has clued them into the booming male chastity belt market.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#43
Still doesn't explain why the most devoted are the ones into the kinkiest sex fetishes.
Initech
Sep 2015
#2
For one, Duggar has built his career on shit like opposing marriage equality.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#14
I'm certainly not going to defend or advocate for Duggar, and my post was clearly in jest.
branford
Sep 2015
#46
I think it's helpful if we're pointing out that, a) the groups in question Duggar is affiliated with
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#47
Again, I'm not a psychiatrist, so I'm not going to play one and diagnose Josh Duggar.
NuclearDem
Sep 2015
#18
I don't think one needs to be a psychiatrist to grok that Duggar seems to have profound problems
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#26
She herself says "here are certainly men out there who use porn so much it interferes with the rest
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#33
Would you agree that the folks at "every man's battle" who define all masturbation as pathological
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#49
I wouldn't categorize every bad decision or crappy life choice as an "addiction".
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#96
But that doesn't mean the reverse is true, that there's no such thing as addiction
kcr
Sep 2015
#118
The headline misrepresents the gist of the article, I agree. At best it's a great oversimplification
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#131
So when "every man's battle" characterizes looking at the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#100
There are no 12 step meetings for people addicted to 12 step meetings
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#56
So you agree with Amanda Marcotte, or not? Did you read it? (speaking of TL;DR)
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#65
Ted Bundy was a pathological liar who was great at telling people what they wanted to hear.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#63
It also correlates with disrespect for other people and a lack of self-control.
bemildred
Sep 2015
#106
"Here I am in prison. I know lots of people who are violent (being in prison) & they all have feet"
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#108
You do realize this puritanical attitude towards sex was concocted by men, right?
Act_of_Reparation
Sep 2015
#135
If the only thing your hand touches is part of your own body, who gives a crap?
mikehiggins
Sep 2015
#84
because making people feel guilty about something they're biologically programmed to do is a
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#86
I kept my bathtub gin in an old gym sock, sneak into the theater to watch Wallace Beery movies
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#89
Now, if I caught my teenager reading Ayn Rand or the Wall St. Journal editorial page
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#92
yeah, anyone who wants a comprehensive list of porn urls, the Indian government recently
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#102
I don't want to sound like I'm questioning the veracity of your anecdote, but it sounds... strange.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#117
I hope he gets it sorted out. It's good of you to be compassionate about his issues.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#123
It's pretty clear how the people at "nofap", associated with this Wilson character, feel about it.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#144