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In reply to the discussion: Check in - Christian and proud. Sick and tired of these idiots who give us a bad name [View all]whatthehey
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Christian extremists speak for your religion because you let them.
They pour their money into huge programs that energize millions to support their wannabe theocracy. Why don't the supposedly far more numerous liberal believers do the same to speak for a kinder gentler faith? Why is Spong buried on page 27 of the low-circulation high end glossies and Robertson blared from the front pages of the mass media and watched by millions? Because the latter put in the effort and the money to make it happen. Is there NO liberal believer with that ability? Seems that way to the outside.
They get free rein to express their nuttery under the name of your religion without vocal criticism because any time anyone on the secular side says "prove it" to their wild ravings, liberal believers jump into immediate lockstep with their loony brothers in faith and turn aghast at the shocking insulting verminous behavior that requires evidence before making a claim (see the poisonous religion forum here).
They get to torture their kids to death by withholding medical care, kill them by perpetuating medieval lunacy like exorcisms, write bestselling books about beating them into submission and sometimes death and turn their wives and daughters into brainless brood mares because Christians use your insurmountable voting supermajority to maintain laws that protect them in the name of "free exercise" even when there is no constitutional protection for such horrors (as evidenced by just one state, far more secular than most, removing religious shield laws - Oregon in 2011. Why hasn't every single liberal church filed amicus briefs to speak up against this? Atheist groups did, but we are few and reviled and marginalized. You rule the nation, but don't want to annoy your supposed "fringe" it seems).
It may seem to you brave and noble to speak up against RW theo-nutbaggery and for "real" Christianity here, but it's not needed here. It's needed in the media when every organization that has a heavy presence for faith is on the far right. It's needed at protests and marches when the hateful bigots come out with their crosses and their bible verses by the thousands and you guys come in one Volvo if at all. It's needed in the political arena when churches poured millions into the homophobic side of Prop 8 and a few bucks on the decent side. They had a non-stop media barrage telling us that God hates gays, you guys managed a couple of meek letters to the editor in the more liberal press.
If liberal believers really cared about improving the vile loathsome reputation of organized Christianity in America, you'd do something to change it. You, supposedly have the numbers. Why let the fascist theocrats hide behind you? Why protect them from the secular criticism and challenges? Why aren't you guys starting the criticism and the challenges where it really matters?