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gollygee

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4. Transgender people need to use the restrooms and locker rooms they're most comfortable in

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 10:08 AM

Sep 2015

Restrooms have individual stalls so no one has any reason to complain about them ever.

There's a transgender middle school kid in my life, and he is very uncomfortable about this issue. There are some boys at his school who bother him, and the school does a pretty good job keeping the bullies in line, but the restroom and locker room feel outside the adults' reach and therefore unsafe to him, so he wants to use the girls' locker room and restroom. Also, his friends are girls and he feels safest if he has them with him.

Kids are generally pretty uncomfortable and modest in locker rooms. The scene from Porky's was fiction. I don't think this is worth worrying about. Let the trasngender kid in the article use the facilities she's most comfortable with. She is probably afraid of bullies too. Don't force her to change around bullies. I don't think people are aware how difficult this is for transgender kids.

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Reactionary students in Missouri protest transgender student's right to use bathroom/locker rooms [View all] gobears10 Sep 2015 OP

Sad that they rather discriminate against a transgirl than find a solution LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #1

Yeah, it's an architectural issue, not a social one jberryhill Sep 2015 #2

Co-ed bathrooms and locker rooms? oberliner Sep 2015 #3

I agree. Co-ed locker rooms and bathrooms are not the answer TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #6

Again they have private stalls LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #9

No thanks. The camaraderie in the locker room TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #10

So camaraderie is more important than privacy and inclusion LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #12

Do students change their clothing, shower, and go to the toilet in the halls? (No, taking off a coat WinkyDink Sep 2015 #18

They don't do that in the locker room either, but in the enclosed lockable stalls. uppityperson Sep 2015 #20

Actually, you walk around in a towel after showering TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #34

They can change in a shower stall and do those things when dressed gollygee Sep 2015 #40

We're also talking about private gyms TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #42

I don't like the idea of co-ed locker rooms gollygee Sep 2015 #43

No, thanks. TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #24

No thanks? But by your own logic there would be boys! LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #47

Somewhere, this discussion turned to co-ed locker rooms TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #49

Gender neutral bathrooms/locker rooms are a TG-related issue LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #50

What, specifically, is the problem with allowing her in the girls locker room? uppityperson Sep 2015 #52

Yeah, definitely not a good idea. smirkymonkey Sep 2015 #15

Why would it make them uncomfortable if they have private stalls? LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #7

And the money for these renovations? WinkyDink Sep 2015 #16

Public funds and taxes if need be LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #23

In the gyms I have belonged to we still have to walk from our lockers to the showers Tipperary Sep 2015 #21

There would be private shower stalls no men and more privacy nt LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #29

There are private shower stalls at my gym. There is a large locker room. We walk back and Tipperary Sep 2015 #39

It probably won't happen but it would still fix the situation n/t LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #48

I have no problem with a transgender woman in the locker room. There is a trans woman at my gym and Tipperary Sep 2015 #51

Ditto to everything you wrote! TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #55

You do know that poster is advocating for something you said you were against right? LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #58

I am not advocating anything and I am talking about adult women, Tipperary Sep 2015 #60

So you think it is fine to discriminate against a transgirl but not a transwoman? LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #62

I have no problem with gender neutral locker rooms if those using them Tipperary Sep 2015 #63

I got the impression we were on the same side too LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #65

In a locker room for women, I support TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #61

That is why I am calling for gender neutral facilities LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #67

A giant room with a sink? TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #25

Agree! At our school the guys used to compare dicks and all. It was tiring and humiliating. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2015 #54

Transgender people need to use the restrooms and locker rooms they're most comfortable in gollygee Sep 2015 #4

+1 hifiguy Sep 2015 #8

So this kid you know would feel cool being naked in the communal girls' shower? WinkyDink Sep 2015 #14

well, when I was an older grad student at a local Dominican college I swam in the CTyankee Sep 2015 #26

Do you know how this school's showers are set up? gollygee Sep 2015 #30

I don't have a problem w/ transgender kids using the appropriate locker room, smirkymonkey Sep 2015 #17

You don't THINK?? It would be DISASTROUS FOR THE GIRLS, FOR GOD'S SAKE. Cell-phones, anyone? WinkyDink Sep 2015 #19

No, they think they've very progressive and TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #27

I agree gollygee Sep 2015 #33

How about some common sense? TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #5

A bathroom is more than just a bunch of stalls. It's fixing one's attire; maybe buying a tampon; WinkyDink Sep 2015 #13

Kids can't fix attire or buy a tampon in front of a transgender person? gollygee Sep 2015 #36

What would be wrong with fixing one's attire, buying a tampon or even farting in front of a uppityperson Sep 2015 #64

Are you saying she should be denied use of the girls locker room because she would be uneasy using uppityperson Sep 2015 #57

What of the rights of the girls not to have a boy in their midst? WinkyDink Sep 2015 #11

There is no boy in the article so that argument is irrelevant. eom uppityperson Sep 2015 #22

Really? Well, this 17-year-old was a self-identified boy until February. So now this kid can make WinkyDink Sep 2015 #28

You must not have read the article or else missed the words "publicly" and "13". uppityperson Sep 2015 #38

Why does it matter, exactly? Oneironaut Sep 2015 #56

No, but there is a penis TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #31

Sounds like Lila is fine being in the girls locker, it is the others who are uncomfortable. uppityperson Sep 2015 #32

In the video they state that she was offered her own private accommodations but she didn't want Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #41

I don't think Lila identified as female TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #44

The vid says she has for 4+ yrs but just came out publicly last Feb. uppityperson Sep 2015 #45

+infinity nt LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #35

+1 !!!! gollygee Sep 2015 #37

Would Juror #3 come out of hiding? This is such fucking bullshit! Humanist_Activist Sep 2015 #68

Zomg teh pervs are gonna pretend to be transgender! Etc. etc. Oneironaut Sep 2015 #46

On a trivial side note, NONE of the news coverage mentions her parents or guardians... steve2470 Sep 2015 #53

Welcome to the state of Misery... n/t backscatter712 Sep 2015 #59

The people who are offended are the ones with the problem, that is for sure. Initech Sep 2015 #66