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Blue_Adept

(6,499 posts)
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 09:30 AM Sep 2015

Nicole Arbour argues fat people deserve to be shamed in YouTube rant; offends everyone [View all]

Remember that youtube is where the next generation of "reality stars" are coming from. There are some good ones out there to be sure, but also realize that a lot of kids/teens soak up a whole lot of this material from various personalities.

Last week, she posted a video called ‘Dear Fat People’. On her Facebook page, she captioned it: ‘This is what we’ve all wanted to say to fat people’. The controversial clip led to her YouTube account being temporarily suspended, following a backlash led by other social media stars.

Nicole begins the six minute rant by saying ‘Fat shaming is not a thing. Fat people made that up. ‘That’s the race card with no race.’ She mimics: “Yeah, but I couldn’t fit into a store. That’s discrimination”. Uh no. That means you are too fat, and you should stop eating.’


She qualifies that she’s not talking about people who have a ‘little cushion for the pushing’ or people with specific health conditions, but rather the ’35 per cent of North Americans who are obese’.

‘If we offend you so much that that you lose weight, I’m okay with that,’ she argues. ‘You are killing yourself.’ She also goes on to mock body positive hashtags on social media, saying:’If you really think enough of you hashtag something bad for you, it makes it okay?’


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Some interesting discussions do come out of things like this, especially the whole body image issue across the board, whether humor can work in all situations (or in particular ways) and about the validity of "x"-shaming, which has been rising alongside trigger warnings and other social media tags in the last few years.

All I can say, as a terribly obese person myself, is that what she says doesn't work for me. In fact, it can actually make me feel pretty fucking lousy. At my worst, I was at 434 lbs and my doc telling me I had to make changes or I'd be dead in a year. I ended up losing 170lbs without surgery and a hell of a lot of hard work. But hey, I'd still be shamed by someone like Arbour because even down to 270, I got an immense amount of grief and shaming by other people and that sent me into a spiral - while I was feeling good about myself.

Hence ending up back at 375 again earlier this summer. Took it under control again and lost another 30lbs since June through all sorts of changes.

Words have power and our lack of ability to know what other people are going through should caution us about what we see - in person and online.

Fucking empathy, people. fucking empathy.
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She's an idjit pinebox Sep 2015 #1
I'm doing my best to avoid surgery Blue_Adept Sep 2015 #2
You need... pinebox Sep 2015 #4
It definitely helps Blue_Adept Sep 2015 #10
Get a book called 'The Plan'. It teaches about inflammation and how to rework your brain roguevalley Sep 2015 #44
I have walked off 120 pounds over five years. It went on slow, it came off slow. She's a stupid roguevalley Sep 2015 #43
She is not even funny. Drahthaardogs Sep 2015 #50
Damn, she is a horrible person. nt DawgHouse Sep 2015 #3
Her comments are stupid, but I really don't care. Oneironaut Sep 2015 #5
Perhaps you don't care because you aren't the target kcr Sep 2015 #41
What you say is true, but I also object to the current internet trend of, Oneironaut Sep 2015 #45
Oh, well kcr Sep 2015 #47
Back around 1949 1939 Sep 2015 #6
I've heard that treestar Sep 2015 #7
Arthur Godfrey was a grade A bastard. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2015 #26
Do you remember "Fatty, fatty, two by four..." MoonRiver Sep 2015 #13
It goes across cultures 1939 Sep 2015 #22
When my daughter was 3, I almost died from embarrassment. MoonRiver Sep 2015 #24
When I was a kid 1939 Sep 2015 #46
I'm sure she was! MoonRiver Sep 2015 #49
when people are thin and have never been fat treestar Sep 2015 #8
I'm obese too. Such crap doesn't mean shit to me either way whatthehey Sep 2015 #9
Because everyone is different? Blue_Adept Sep 2015 #11
Sure, but can't I be different too? whatthehey Sep 2015 #12
Just because someone feels ashamed doesn't mean the asshole doing the shaming has a valid point. kcr Sep 2015 #42
Obesity is a condition; being an asshole is a choice. DirkGently Sep 2015 #14
I used to believe this. Blue_Adept Sep 2015 #15
Sadly, I agree with you, Blue. CrispyQ Sep 2015 #17
I was the fittest fat girl you ever saw. CrispyQ Sep 2015 #16
"And you'd be a nice person if you weren't such an asshole." mnhtnbb Sep 2015 #20
They just don't get the sympathy that anorexics do. WinkyDink Sep 2015 #18
Who care what some little twit says? Marrah_G Sep 2015 #19
She throws a weird curveball near the end Orrex Sep 2015 #21
Assholes always use "tough love" to justify their abuse meow2u3 Sep 2015 #25
^^That. All of that. Orrex Sep 2015 #36
Her "tough love" is a crock Bettie Sep 2015 #30
I concur (nt) Orrex Sep 2015 #38
I care less than zip what somebody says. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2015 #23
One of my favorite songs! cwydro Sep 2015 #29
So glad Waiting For Everyman Sep 2015 #40
They're convinced you're lazy and just don't get enough exercise and eat too much. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2015 #27
I used to have a colleague who was massively overweight. SwissTony Sep 2015 #33
There are millions of people who are mistreated or undiagnosed with thyroid problems. Mostly women. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2015 #34
This is what annoyed me when people decided to jump on that idiot, Kim Davis, cwydro Sep 2015 #28
Suburban airhead who watches too much TV. closeupready Sep 2015 #31
Two observations concerning this Nicole Whatever's remarks... Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #32
Who the hell is Nicole Arbour? hatrack Sep 2015 #35
Who? ScreamingMeemie Sep 2015 #37
What I don't get are the people who think mockery is fine when it suits their... Shandris Sep 2015 #39
And just who in the Sam Hill is Nicole Arbour? KamaAina Sep 2015 #48
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