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immoderate

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37. Studies of feedlot animals are not long term.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 11:38 AM
Sep 2015

Nor are they "scientific." Here are problems with these studies:


  • The populations are not equivalent. They are from different eras, and differ in several characteristics, like weight, milk production, breast size in chickens, etc. No controls!
  • Feed lot animals are slaughtered after living a very short life, not enough to show organic abnormalities.
  • These animals are raised on a diet of feed lot food and antibiotics. Not appropriate for health studies, I think.
  • Unhealthy animals are cut out prior to market, not counted. Their diets, lacking forage, are unsustainable for a normal life span.
  • There is no comprehensive study of pathologies on vital organs. They just have to be healthy enough to slaughter.
  • It might be significant that A. L. Van Eenennaam worked as a researcher for Monsanto before moving to the U of California, which gets money from Monsanto.

This is another of those 'data dumps' I mentioned. It's not good science.

--imm

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Okay what is the deal with Organic foods? Rex Sep 2015 #1
I grow lots of food in my yard, and it would all be considered "organic." HuckleB Sep 2015 #3
Organic farmers actually end up using more pesticides. progressoid Sep 2015 #17
This is "guilt by association." immoderate Sep 2015 #2
I probably have you on ignore because evidence does not matter to you. HuckleB Sep 2015 #4
You are making implications about people by associating them with Roulac. immoderate Sep 2015 #9
+1000 G_j Sep 2015 #11
BTW, I'm very tolerant. HuckleB Sep 2015 #5
I'm here longer, and AFAIK, no one else has had me on ignore. immoderate Sep 2015 #7
You wouldn't know. HuckleB Sep 2015 #8
I did respond. Did I make it before the lock? immoderate Sep 2015 #10
Noting that your posts have no content is an insult? HuckleB Sep 2015 #14
My response is pretty evident. Your obstinacy noted. Guilt by association. immoderate Sep 2015 #15
It has been subjected to independent study. progressoid Sep 2015 #18
Thanks. I've gone through these. immoderate Sep 2015 #22
Who finances them? Click on the study to find out. progressoid Sep 2015 #26
I meant the aggregate studies. But where does all this money originate? immoderate Sep 2015 #34
Of course I know Syngenta produces GMOs. progressoid Sep 2015 #36
Studies of feedlot animals are not long term. immoderate Sep 2015 #37
OK, progressoid Sep 2015 #40
Each of these studies cite some organic anomalies. immoderate Sep 2015 #41
Those concerns can be applied to non-gmo crops as well. progressoid Sep 2015 #44
Yep. But latching on to GMOs and their pesticides exacerbates some of that. immoderate Sep 2015 #46
Honk. HuckleB Sep 2015 #6
HAHAHAHA laundry_queen Sep 2015 #12
You haven't bothered to read it. HuckleB Sep 2015 #13
Why ‘GMO-free’ is a marketing ploy you shouldn’t fall for HuckleB Sep 2015 #16
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Unfortunately, if too many of them buy into that, food insecurity could be worsened. HuckleB Sep 2015 #21
That's a big if Major Nikon Sep 2015 #23
The vast majority doesn't have to know for the few to have an ugly effect. HuckleB Sep 2015 #24
All sorts of hucksters prey on the poor Major Nikon Sep 2015 #25
I won't deny the first part, however... HuckleB Sep 2015 #27
Certainly some are doing it for the profit motive Major Nikon Sep 2015 #28
And the reason they are chemophobic is because of propaganda pushed by profiteers. HuckleB Sep 2015 #30
Some of them Major Nikon Sep 2015 #31
Again, they were pushed in that direction. HuckleB Sep 2015 #32
We don't need products to be voluntarily labeled GMO-free, as the Republican bill calls for. pnwmom Sep 2015 #29
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And I'm happy to be one of them. immoderate Sep 2015 #33
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Pointing to a scumbag, doesn't validate your arguments! immoderate Sep 2015 #38
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