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Runningdawg

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19. I am a Christan no longer,
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 04:58 PM
Sep 2015

But I still know how to read a Bible, at least well enough to make an intelligent argument with the fundies:
Submission to the Authorities
Romans 13
1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
2 Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you.
4 For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.
6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing.
7 Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

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Iran is a cautionary tale. The Ayatollah promised religion lite -- just some old-fashioned values. Hortensis Sep 2015 #1
Once Muslims, Jews, Wiccans, Hindus, et. al start demanding religious exemptions Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2015 #3
It's been clear for some time the fundies are after a theocracy based on mnhtnbb Sep 2015 #2
However They Are Willing To Force The Issue. TheMastersNemesis Sep 2015 #4
"Power! Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2015 #5
Yeah...check out the 3%ers.... haikugal Sep 2015 #14
One of the scaryest documentaries was yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #39
Yep...it's called child abuse and no one calls them on it! Grrrrrr haikugal Sep 2015 #40
Then they should be called out on their treason. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #6
Religious Freedom/Conscience Will Be A Main Campaign Issue. TheMastersNemesis Sep 2015 #7
How can fundies campaign on conscience meow2u3 Sep 2015 #22
They should be but won't they are a group of 'Lone Wolves" YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #27
Far out! gratuitous Sep 2015 #8
They Would Not Go "That" Far. TheMastersNemesis Sep 2015 #9
they need to find their own country. spanone Sep 2015 #10
No They Are Expecting Nonbelievers To Leave. TheMastersNemesis Sep 2015 #11
Obviously, they think they have. WinkyDink Sep 2015 #30
…umm, didn’t Jesus say that to “Love One Another” is the greatest of all commandments?? Jack-o-Lantern Sep 2015 #12
They think discriminating against and demonizing gay people IS loving gay people. Jamastiene Sep 2015 #20
They been scribbling that line for years, and they are far weaker now than they were in the past Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #13
They are useful to TPTB, dismissal is perilous in my opinion. haikugal Sep 2015 #15
That's hilarious. I've been on the front lines against them when they had teeth, decades since. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #21
Wow....ok, you disagree that they have plans and power in all areas of our government and culture... haikugal Sep 2015 #23
Their tactic is to confuse religion with government. world wide wally Sep 2015 #16
Also to confuse civil rights with "freedom of religion". Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #25
I am a Muslim bartender and I am sorry that I can not fix you a drink Angry Dragon Sep 2015 #17
I believe your assertion is correct, but I don't think the fundies fully realize hamsterjill Sep 2015 #18
Fundies in Louisiana (I believe) were appalled Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2015 #38
I am a Christan no longer, Runningdawg Sep 2015 #19
good post. yes, they want a theocracy restorefreedom Sep 2015 #24
Either they can have a Bible based government, or a secular Constitution based government. Initech Sep 2015 #26
I have third choice for them atreides1 Sep 2015 #31
Isn't there an unpopulated island, somewhere, that they can move to? Siwsan Sep 2015 #28
Just kicking them the F out is not unprecedented either, stick em on a ship is one option, where they YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #29
Feeding to the lions will just validate their martyr complex Siwsan Sep 2015 #32
Seeing that they would all be lion food who would be around to even give a crap if they are YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #34
Every Thanksgiving we celebrate and honor their Puritan forebears. That's where we went wrong! :-) WinkyDink Sep 2015 #33
fuck them Skittles Sep 2015 #35
Only the parts of the bible they want to use n2doc Sep 2015 #36
So we put them in jail for a few days, they cave in, Nye Bevan Sep 2015 #37
That line has always been there. apnu Sep 2015 #41
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