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Response to Spider Jerusalem (Reply #86)

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:34 PM

135. I love this cartoon.

Sums up a lot of what I have been seeing among acquaintances recently. I just ended a friendship after discovering she was a big time TERF. They sound so much like right wingers, but claim they are "progressive."

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401 replies	Author	Time	Post
Allowing biological men to use women's restrooms? [View all]	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	OP
we definitely shouldnt let mechanical men use them.	Warren DeMontague	Sep 2015	#1
Most women I know would be uncomfortable if a man enters to do his bussiness,	Agnosticsherbet	Sep 2015	#2
As a woman, I don't think I'd care if Caitlyn Jenner entered the women's bathroom I was in.	CTyankee	Sep 2015	#8
The thread is not just about transgender people	Doingto	Sep 2015	#157
Is it?	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#164
Exactly right. Nye is saying that transgendered female is not necessarily female	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#345
She takes hormones, so she's partially transitioned. n/t	pnwmom	Sep 2015	#219
That may be, but I'm pretty likely to get attacked if I use a men's bathroom	MillennialDem	Sep 2015	#383
OK, this is making me crazy...I'm just taking myself out before I go completely nuts...	CTyankee	Sep 2015	#384
Me, I'm uncomfortable when anyone refers to it as "doing their business"	Warren DeMontague	Sep 2015	#26
I would be fully uncomfortable if a woman were in the men's room while I was using the urinal.	Ed Suspicious	Sep 2015	#38
"...take a Trump."	CrispyQ	Sep 2015	#57
Reminded me of this...	Lancero	Sep 2015	#245
I sometimes go in men's room when there is a line at the women's.	Laffy Kat	Sep 2015	#99
My wife has asked me to stand guard a few times when the ladies loo	Agnosticsherbet	Sep 2015	#119
Exactly, it's a toilet, no big deal. If a guy is lounging around an empty ladies room, that's	underahedgerow	Sep 2015	#312
I wouldn't be comfortable either	ibegurpard	Sep 2015	#267
Dangerous?	woolldog	Sep 2015	#278
A woman walking into a men's room with a bunch of creepers...	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#289
A number of women have posted	woolldog	Sep 2015	#394
Exactly . . .	markpkessinger	Sep 2015	#373
Completely agree here..	ion_theory	Sep 2015	#45
I think the real question for a man might be, if you had a 10 year old daughter	pnwmom	Sep 2015	#223
How do you know who is already in there or not? What about teachers at school, or maybe	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#246
Sometimes it is possible to know just by looking into the door.	pnwmom	Sep 2015	#253
How about he simply walked in with her and waited with her if there was a line, or for her to	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#257
The point is that most fathers would trust their daughter alone in a bathroom	pnwmom	Sep 2015	#266
Why would a man trust his daughter to strange women either?	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#274
Yes, they do. But a man who is in the ladies room for no apparent reason	pnwmom	Sep 2015	#283
Why? Maybe a man walking into a women's rest room is going it to fetch their child, or someone	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#292
I said "for no apparent reason" and empty restroom. So your examples don't fit.	pnwmom	Sep 2015	#294
I wouldn't trust anyone loitering in an empty restroom for no apparent reason	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#300
Women take longer in the bathroom than men. That's been measured.	pnwmom	Sep 2015	#308
Maybe I missed something, but I think statistics is the very obvious answer.	prayin4rain	Sep 2015	#301
Statistics show most car accidents happen closed to home so you shouldn't drive closed to where you	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#302
No one is suggesting	prayin4rain	Sep 2015	#304
And transwomen fear for their safety in men's rooms, with good reason.	pnwmom	Sep 2015	#310
pnwmom is repeating the false meme that giving the transgendered civil rights risks sexual predation	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#350
Right. The issue isn't transwomen, it's men. n/t	pnwmom	Sep 2015	#309
Again, you keep trying to get us to deny the civil rights of the transgendered	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#347
+ 100000	yardwork	Sep 2015	#357
And you keep denying women the right to be safe from attacks of cis-males. n/t	pnwmom	Sep 2015	#374
How do laws against the transgendered protect you from attacks of cismales?	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#378
Laws keeping cis-males out of ladies rooms protect all women	pnwmom	Sep 2015	#379
so that's the only thing you want codified in law?	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#380
why should laws that harm people be based on your ignorance?	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#381
The harm against some has to be weighed against the harm against others.	pnwmom	Sep 2015	#390
Who are you saying it's okay to harm?	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#391
No one. So the best solution is probably individual bathrooms. n/t	pnwmom	Sep 2015	#393
Can I honestly ask why you think your own hangups about the transgendered are so important?	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#346
As the mother of sons, this came up every time they used a public bathroom.	yardwork	Sep 2015	#354
This	Tree-Hugger	Sep 2015	#386
"I stood near the entrance	woolldog	Sep 2015	#395
I think I was thinking more along the lines of..	ion_theory	Sep 2015	#376
They just have to get over their old fashioned stereotypes.	AngryAmish	Sep 2015	#49
As long as we have stalls for the "business", I'm good.	SusanCalvin	Sep 2015	#118
Trans women are women.	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#3
Noticed that, too, in the questions, and didn't know how to respond.	closeupready	Sep 2015	#5
That's why I was like - huh?	JustAnotherGen	Sep 2015	#36
I feel like we are wandering into Focus on the Family	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#40
I agree with you	JustAnotherGen	Sep 2015	#102
I wish all public bathrooms were like that!	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#105
Most of the public toilets	enlightenment	Sep 2015	#112
"Definitely crafted to be insensitive"	HERVEPA	Sep 2015	#326
So glad another person sees it - I've added to this	JustAnotherGen	Sep 2015	#327
Welcome to the land of TERF framing.	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#140
Yes, I've had my run-ins before, here and elsewhere.	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#142
The problem is, how to distinguish a true trans woman	whathehell	Sep 2015	#54
It's settled case law.	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#69
In practice, it will likely	whathehell	Sep 2015	#77
And attacked by the same right-wing enemies.	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#91
The right to privacy	whathehell	Sep 2015	#263
Why not? Lots of Freepers here.	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#269
Sorry, but I think you're jumping the gun here	whathehell	Sep 2015	#281
Trans-inclusion is the standard set out by case law.	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#286
That's nice, but csee law is not what is under discussion..	whathehell	Sep 2015	#337
You replied to me. You're welcome.	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#339
After you replied to me...	whathehell	Sep 2015	#352
Check the subthread, you replied first to me. #54	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#389
Lol..Sorry, not interested in petty "who said it first" competitions	whathehell	Sep 2015	#399
that is just right wing transphobic nonsense	Warren Stupidity	Sep 2015	#163
So what would you like? A door guard, checking everyone's papers before they enter?	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#190
Yes, of course,..	whathehell	Sep 2015	#230
You do know, I hope that rapists have "access to women" all over, not just in unisex restrooms	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#234
Yes, it is a very odd discussion	whathehell	Sep 2015	#249
I especially like requests for definitions and to clarify something that are ignored	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#251
Enjoy yourself	whathehell	Sep 2015	#271
Don't play along with the meme	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#348
so you're saying that rapists say that they are transgendered	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#351
I'm not saying anything like that..	whathehell	Sep 2015	#356
Well if you were trying to communicate something different	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#359
No, I think	whathehell	Sep 2015	#400
Because public restrooms are the only place they could find women?	winter is coming	Sep 2015	#392
Why do you think society decided to mandate sex segregated public lavatories in.the first place?	whathehell	Sep 2015	#398
How do you define "women," then?	WinkyDink	Sep 2015	#80
By the legal definition, that is commonly accepted now to be nondiscriminatory.	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#88
+1 nt	geek tragedy	Sep 2015	#96
I don't support unisex restrooms, sorry.	closeupready	Sep 2015	#4
Neither do I.	WillowTree	Sep 2015	#31
I'm with you. But someday I'll die off and the rest can pee and poop in perfect harmony.	Ed Suspicious	Sep 2015	#42
troughs sound disturbing	Skittles	Sep 2015	#162
Yuck is a good word.	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#166
This message was self-deleted by its author	closeupready	Sep 2015	#205
This isn't about unisex restrooms.	Ms. Toad	Sep 2015	#175
Absolutely correct. I alerted on the OP for exactly that reason.	Zorra	Sep 2015	#221
I alerted on it after you did.	Ms. Toad	Sep 2015	#260
I agree	DirtDart1319	Sep 2015	#196
My first experience with a unisex community restroom was in the military	Major Nikon	Sep 2015	#207
This message was self-deleted by its author	closeupready	Sep 2015	#213
so you don't ever eat at small restaurants?	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#353
Uh.....what?	jeff47	Sep 2015	#6
If they are biological women, this poll does not apply to them,	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#9
If you're going to kick the "biological men" to the men's room...	jeff47	Sep 2015	#11
You seem to be arguing for men to be allowed to use whichever bathroom they choose.	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#12
Nope. I'm arguing that throwing transgender people into the opposite bathroom is bad.	jeff47	Sep 2015	#17
Read the OP again. The word "transgender" is in there (nt)	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#29
As a poll choice, after you've set up people to reject it by using "biological male" everywhere else	jeff47	Sep 2015	#129
you're the guy who sounded upset that he couldn't use the word "cripple" anymore	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#355
What do you mean by "biological men"? I do not understand the use of that term.	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#192
From that linked page: the impossible choice!	tblue37	Sep 2015	#239
I don't see any further purpose of having seperate restrooms.	Shandris	Sep 2015	#7
Why are the comfort and preferences ONLY of those who are transgender to be considered?	WillowTree	Sep 2015	#34
It's not. I'm not considering 'comfort and preference' at ALL.	Shandris	Sep 2015	#52
OK. I understand that you're saying.......	WillowTree	Sep 2015	#101
Ahh, so you failed reading comprehension. That's okay.	Shandris	Sep 2015	#106
I failed nothing.	WillowTree	Sep 2015	#111
There's a lot of that.	pecwae	Sep 2015	#151
Thank you for your concern.	Shandris	Sep 2015	#231
Always happy to oblige. nt	pecwae	Sep 2015	#307
Are you proud of yourself for thinking that if the transgendered are allowed to use a restroom	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#361
because they aren't "comfort and preferences" but Civil Rights	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#360
Ah yes. Taking a condescending tone always wins people over to your view!	WillowTree	Sep 2015	#382
If you don't approve of a condescending tone, why did you call using the bathroom a "convenience"	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#388
I've happily shared the women's loo with drag queens	Warpy	Sep 2015	#10
In posting this poll I'm thinking more about grandmothers at highway rest stops	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#14
Maybe a separate grandmother's restroom then?	LanternWaste	Sep 2015	#15
As a man a few short months away from becoming a grandfather, I would welcome this option	Ed Suspicious	Sep 2015	#44
Many places have 'family' restrooms.	peace13	Sep 2015	#293
...	geardaddy	Sep 2015	#358
How about a separate transgender bathroom?	whathehell	Sep 2015	#401
Sharing bathrooms with grandmothers is tolerable.	LeftyMom	Sep 2015	#20
Oh, yeah, gotta protect those poor, innocent little grannies.	Warpy	Sep 2015	#280
zOMG, grandma got runned over by a	Jamastiene	Sep 2015	#342
honey, we have all shared restrooms with people in drag	elehhhhna	Sep 2015	#144
Exactly the way I feel about it.	Warpy	Sep 2015	#148
it's not like anyone's doing a butt check when you walk in	elehhhhna	Sep 2015	#152
As a middle aged female wearing levis and a flannel shirt, I need to use the gents room?	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#193
Wow.	qwlauren35	Sep 2015	#13
Obviously banning men from women's restrooms reduces the probability of rape happening.	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#32
no it doesn't. What evidence do you have for that?	Warren Stupidity	Sep 2015	#167
Why do you say "dress up as women"?	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#173
Your poll is a shit poll. You made your beliefs quite clear. You are very concerned	Warren Stupidity	Sep 2015	#176
Polls where DU is pretty much divided 50-50, as this one is,	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#182
ignorance on gender issues is widespread.	Warren Stupidity	Sep 2015	#185
a poll about the transgendered use of restrooms only has one option with the word "transgendered"	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#362
What is your evidence for the claim that banning transgendered people from	el_bryanto	Sep 2015	#318
You could or couldn't care less? I could care much less, but I don't.	Ed Suspicious	Sep 2015	#46
You got me.	qwlauren35	Sep 2015	#113
Define "biological man."	Iggo	Sep 2015	#16
It's a TERF/RW-bigot frame that insinuates that trans-women are trying to trick you.	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#143
exactly.	Warren Stupidity	Sep 2015	#178
+1 nt	Tree-Hugger	Sep 2015	#324
What are "biological men"?	Behind the Aegis	Sep 2015	#18
Thank you - I was wondering too n/t	JustAnotherGen	Sep 2015	#37
Seems we are to receive no answer.	Behind the Aegis	Sep 2015	#303
I didn't know it was a complicated defination	Travis_0004	Sep 2015	#377
A lot of trans people don't ever do bottom surgery.	LeftyMom	Sep 2015	#19
...	Spider Jerusalem	Sep 2015	#21
Those in the process of transformation to their gender should be allowed to use the restroom of	Dont call me Shirley	Sep 2015	#22
My mother has MS and cannot go to the restroom by herself.	LostOne4Ever	Sep 2015	#23
Women have an expectation that the bathroom will be "women only"	TexasMommaWithAHat	Sep 2015	#28
I'd rather keep bathrooms separate	yeoman6987	Sep 2015	#115
lol	woolldog	Sep 2015	#285
Poorly worded poll	shenmue	Sep 2015	#24
Transphobically framed push-poll.	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#187
I know, I thought the OP wouldn't do that	shenmue	Sep 2015	#202
Or intentionally.	Lancero	Sep 2015	#198
Exactly nt	Tree-Hugger	Sep 2015	#323
How might you know?	Vinca	Sep 2015	#25
We need more unisex crappers!	MADem	Sep 2015	#27
More US Puritanical prudery.	mnhtnbb	Sep 2015	#30
"there was NOBODY in the men's room" kinda makes your point, pointless.	WinkyDink	Sep 2015	#83
Someone dressed as a woman going in a men's room would be viewed strangely IF	mnhtnbb	Sep 2015	#110
How about a man dressed as a man...	NotoriousRBG	Sep 2015	#123
This was my thought	DirtDart1319	Sep 2015	#212
Women's restrooms have stalls	abelenkpe	Sep 2015	#33
For me the issue is more one of creepy (not transgender) men going into the women's restroom,	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#35
Well, perverts have always had the opportunity to go in women's restrooms	mnhtnbb	Sep 2015	#39
Creepy men are more likely to enter women's restrooms if they are legally allowed to do so,	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#43
I'd like to see the case studies showing this is true	Cal Carpenter	Sep 2015	#55
Why do you think creepy men are more likely to assault women in restrooms if they are unisex?	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#195
Yes, they have -- but the laws have meant they could be arrested for doing so.	pnwmom	Sep 2015	#295
The issue sounds quite a lot more like transphobia dressed up as "concern"	Spider Jerusalem	Sep 2015	#41
My thoughts exactly... n/t	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#170
So the concern is sexual assault? Or violence?	abelenkpe	Sep 2015	#48
Who do you think is in more danger?	Cal Carpenter	Sep 2015	#50
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One notices he didn't answer.	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#130
Did you know that how you dress is not an indication of your gender? I am middle aged female in levi	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#199
You just used the Klan Fallacy.	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#70
so you're saying that the laws permitting transgendered to use the restroom	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#363
How about it's none of my business what is in your pants	Cal Carpenter	Sep 2015	#47
That would be the first option if you would like to vote in the poll (nt)	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#51
No, it isn't.	Cal Carpenter	Sep 2015	#53
Ah, so "none of my business" does not necessarily mean "should be legal" (nt).	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#58
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As you can see from the poll results, DU is divided almost exactly 50-50 on this issue.	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#64
That just means DU has a lot of, well, we aren't allowed to call them what they are, who don't understand that this is already the law.	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#74
You say that like it means anything.	Spider Jerusalem	Sep 2015	#94
Whoops, forgot the "internet poll" disclaimer.	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#125
It is not fifty-fifty	LostOne4Ever	Sep 2015	#235
You do realize that response distributions in DU polls suffer from self-selection bias, right? n/t	Gormy Cuss	Sep 2015	#341
I urge jury nullification on Cal Carpenter's post... n/t	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#134
I concur.	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#159
I know. I don't understand why people have to cuss at others if they disagree.	cwydro	Sep 2015	#316
I second this. The overt bigotry on display here is horrendous.	Warren Stupidity	Sep 2015	#169
You are officially due beer and travel money, and many experiences. nt	Zorra	Sep 2015	#243
No, it isn't. Your first option is "Biological men" which is far different and as of yet, undefined	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#201
#5 Americans should grow up about sex.	randys1	Sep 2015	#60
Is this really only a US issue?	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#62
Americans should grow up about sex.	randys1	Sep 2015	#63
Poorly worded	gollygee	Sep 2015	#65
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We're not talking about men. We're talking about trans-women.	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#68
Well, to be fair, it is my OP and that was my poll question (nt)	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#73
Yeah, and your framing is fucking bullshit. n/t	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#75
I'm sorry that you didn't like the wording of my poll (nt)	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#78
And I'm not sorry for calling out your bullshit. n/t	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#81
I appreciate your contribution to the discussion. I certainly don't need an apology.	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#85
And half our country is infatuated with Donald Trump.	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#131
Polls like this are called push polls for a reason.	Ms. Toad	Sep 2015	#180
Hmmm. I didn't use the word "rape", the word "attack" or even the word "assault",	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#186
Calling transwomen "biological men," which your second question expressly does,	Ms. Toad	Sep 2015	#200
Under 50 participants IS NOT HALF OF DU.	PeaceNikki	Sep 2015	#317
I agree about the bullshit framing. Frankly I'm not surprised, though.	Arugula Latte	Sep 2015	#95
Ditto on the bullshit framing AND not one bit surprised either. Polls like this make DU suck.	bettyellen	Sep 2015	#242
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service	eggplant	Sep 2015	#371
I don't think cis men should go into a women's room without announcing and	gollygee	Sep 2015	#72
Let's try this. Say a non-transgender man uses the lady's room at a highway rest stop every day,	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#76
Yes. It's called "being a Peeping Tom".	WinkyDink	Sep 2015	#84
Trans-women should not be subjected to a crotch-search to be allowed to go in a bathroom and pee.	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#67
I agree with every word of your post (nt)	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#82
MEN have No Business in a woman's restroom and Visa Versa	trueblue2007	Sep 2015	#71
My next question: Allowing TERFs on a Democratic message board.	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#79
Relevant:	Spider Jerusalem	Sep 2015	#86
I love this cartoon.	Tree-Hugger	Sep 2015	#135
A very good question indeed! nt	LostOne4Ever	Sep 2015	#89
Because DU juries choose to allow it?	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#90
For those who don't know, TERF = Trans-Exclusionary Reactionary Feminist.	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#98
I have had quite an education	Tree-Hugger	Sep 2015	#138
There are no TERFs here. The OP is not a radical feminist.	geek tragedy	Sep 2015	#93
There are plenty of TERFs here (not necessarily in this thread, perhaps)	Spider Jerusalem	Sep 2015	#97
the only transphobic stuff I've seen have been from those who are generally not aligned	geek tragedy	Sep 2015	#104
Then you haven't seen the same things I have, but I can assure you they're here.	Spider Jerusalem	Sep 2015	#108
you can PM, I'd be interested to see	geek tragedy	Sep 2015	#109
I think I know who the previous poster is talking about	gollygee	Sep 2015	#117
The James Dobson wing of the party is sure getting an airing here today, ain't they?	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#107
An altogether better question. nt	Codeine	Sep 2015	#121
Hell no.	sagat	Sep 2015	#87
If HE is dressed as a woman, I'll let him come in	mainer	Sep 2015	#92
Doesn't such an approach simply	woolldog	Sep 2015	#287
Sex-Segregated Public Restrooms Are an Outdated Relic of Victorian Paternalism	davidn3600	Sep 2015	#100
I agree!	tammywammy	Sep 2015	#116
A rapist is more likely to walk into a woman's restroom if he knows he cannot be arrested	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#128
Someone that already has ill intentions is going to do it regardless. n/t	tammywammy	Sep 2015	#141
Why would you think that? What proof of any sort do you have of that?	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#232
as long as they use a stall and don't request those smelly urinals	notadmblnd	Sep 2015	#103
The results of the poll are sad and uninformed.	yardwork	Sep 2015	#114
I thought perhaps an armband so that the gender police could clearly identify them.	Warren Stupidity	Sep 2015	#181
Yeah, a piece of flair that they'd be required to wear on their clothing...	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#184
How about a yellow penis on their clothes	geardaddy	Sep 2015	#364
Are you kidding me with this?	blogslut	Sep 2015	#120
I'm guessing that you disagree with 50% of DU on this issue? (nt)	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#122
Oh, child.	blogslut	Sep 2015	#124
.	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#126
Or as the Irish these days might say...	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#137
I think the real issue is women feeling vulnerable to sexual assault	mainer	Sep 2015	#127
And that's why trans-women shouldn't be forced to use the men's room.	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#132
This poll doesn't seem to hit the issue of transgender very fully.	PatrickforO	Sep 2015	#133
I was expecting the middle choice to get the most votes.	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#145
Creeps have hidden in women's rooms before	gollygee	Sep 2015	#147
Remember this dude?	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#150
I don't think it'll make any difference at all	gollygee	Sep 2015	#155
If you don't think that any creeps would be emboldened by being legally allowed in the ladys room,	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#172
I am really confused why you continue this line	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#238
Oh. Well, I'd have voted the middle one!	PatrickforO	Sep 2015	#149
As a men, I selfishly would not give a shit who's in there with me.	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#154
Well, I have a wife and daughters too, and soon will have a grand daughter.	PatrickforO	Sep 2015	#158
Again, I am not the slightest bit concerned about transgender people.	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#160
Oh! I get it now. Sorry for being dense.	PatrickforO	Sep 2015	#165
How paternalistic of you.	Goblinmonger	Sep 2015	#211
Yes, having daughters has made me more paternalistic.	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#215
I have a daughter	Goblinmonger	Sep 2015	#218
+1	Ed Suspicious	Sep 2015	#250
Are you seriously not aware of how many transwomen	Ms. Toad	Sep 2015	#188
With almost 200 responses, DU divided 50-50 and a vigorous, lively debate?	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#191
So if I put an intentionally racist push poll up,	Ms. Toad	Sep 2015	#203
I have made it abundantly clear that I have no issue with genuine transgender people.	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#206
Then why did you not put a single option in your poll	Ms. Toad	Sep 2015	#282
DU is not divided 50-50.	Jamastiene	Sep 2015	#349
Who do you know that carries "medical documentation of being transgender" around with them?	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#236
Yes, we can make transsexuals wear something on their clothes to prove they are.	jeff47	Sep 2015	#331
As long as they don't pee on the seat, I don't get the problem	HereSince1628	Sep 2015	#136
I've often wondered if anyone here has kids...	ileus	Sep 2015	#139
The question is not whether men (however you label them)	Ms. Toad	Sep 2015	#146
the transphobic poster of this transphobic poll knows that and thinks he is being cute	Warren Stupidity	Sep 2015	#171
Do you consider all the DUers who chose option 3 in the poll to be transphobic? (nt)	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#177
I consider your position here on this issue to be one of overt transphobic bigotry.	Warren Stupidity	Sep 2015	#179
Again, thanks for sharing your feelings on this issue (nt)	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#183
Unisex shitters for all	JackInGreen	Sep 2015	#153
A person who is psychologically or physically a woman should use the	prayin4rain	Sep 2015	#156
I would think that incidents of trans-women assaulting cis-women would be very rare.	Maedhros	Sep 2015	#174
Oh, I totally agree.	prayin4rain	Sep 2015	#197
Your question is transphobic.	Warren Stupidity	Sep 2015	#161
For all the women here that are fine with this	Heeeeers Johnny	Sep 2015	#168
So do women	Tree-Hugger	Sep 2015	#216
LOL @ "deuces"	geardaddy	Sep 2015	#365
Having been a janitor, both men and women are slobs in toilets.	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#240
I would assume most use the urinal, and as such the toilets are cleaner.	Travis_0004	Sep 2015	#264
I don't know how to break this to you, but there are no urinals in a women's restroom.	WillowTree	Sep 2015	#284
"YOU VANT TO TAKE DUMP?? VERE ARE YOUR PAPERS??"	bullwinkle428	Sep 2015	#189
Conservatives Use "Bathroom Panic" To Defeat Transgender Non-Discrimination Laws	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#194
In France there are unisex restrooms	Nevernose	Sep 2015	#204
Gendered bathrooms aren't necessary.	Gormy Cuss	Sep 2015	#208
How about we relabel the bathrooms on the NJ Turnpike rest stops as "bathroom 1" and "bathroom 2",	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#210
Why do you think women wouldn't be receptive to this concept?	Gormy Cuss	Sep 2015	#220
Outside of Wrigley Field I haven't seen "troughs" in at least 25 years (nt)	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#222
And that anecdote means what, exactly?	Gormy Cuss	Sep 2015	#225
Then you haven't been to the First Avenue club in Minneapolis.	bullwinkle428	Sep 2015	#241
There are still a few places...	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#248
And the CC Club and Lyle's and the State Fair	geardaddy	Sep 2015	#367
Post removed	Post removed	Sep 2015	#209
And because in one case, a black man assaulted a white woman...	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#214
Not sure single-sex restrooms are analogous to whites-only schools.	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#217
And we have a winner!!![n/t]	LostOne4Ever	Sep 2015	#237
Congratulations, exhaustive Googling has found you a single instance...	Spider Jerusalem	Sep 2015	#226
A letter from a psychiatrist is actually a good idea,	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#229
You seem to be amazingly ignorant	Spider Jerusalem	Sep 2015	#233
It's just the usual trolling. Nothing more. nt	Guy Whitey Corngood	Sep 2015	#313
Biological men	Tree-Hugger	Sep 2015	#224
Its called a "Urinal" if you have penis...use it.	hexola	Sep 2015	#227
Head Games...	hexola	Sep 2015	#228
Is there no such thing as Heterophobia? (nt)	hexola	Sep 2015	#244
No there isn't. Its homophobic bullshit similar to "reverse racism". n/t	Humanist_Activist	Sep 2015	#297
No.	shenmue	Sep 2015	#305
I don't know how I feel about this	yuiyoshida	Sep 2015	#247
tired of offending the usual groups?	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#252
Would DU be a better and more interesting place if nobody was ever offended?	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#256
No. DU would be a better place without transphobia or homophobic posts.	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#261
Perhaps we could have some kind of "jury system"	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#265
What post of yours was hidden in the last 90 days? I am sincerely curious, if you'd link it.	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#276
(Trigger warning) it was a somewhat facetious remark about "microaggressions" and "trigger warnings".	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#279
Frankly,	Snobblevitch	Sep 2015	#254
My genitals are not attached to a facility. Are yours?	uppityperson	Sep 2015	#259
Why?	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#298
I second the "Why?"	justiceischeap	Sep 2015	#340
I was attempting sarcasm at the expense of Jenner.	Snobblevitch	Sep 2015	#366
I don't care who poops where.	svpadgham	Sep 2015	#255
And how do you determine this?	ibegurpard	Sep 2015	#258
A DUer upthread suggested that a psychiatrist's letter could serve as documentation.	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#262
Are you seriously suggesting we check papers	ibegurpard	Sep 2015	#268
No. (nt)	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#272
Papers please?	backscatter712	Sep 2015	#270
No. But if a woman complains to a cop or security guard about a man in the women's restroom,	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#277
If a woman complains about a person behaving inappropriately in the women's restroom,	Ms. Toad	Sep 2015	#288
I did not, in fact, suggest that	Spider Jerusalem	Sep 2015	#290
I'm going to be rude here. WARNING! Don't read the text Nye, you will likley be offended.	vkkv	Sep 2015	#369
Im confused...by excremental discrimination	hexola	Sep 2015	#275
How about getting rid of the gaps?	tandot	Sep 2015	#273
How is this going to be determined?	lonestarnot	Sep 2015	#291
I couldn't care less	Egnever	Sep 2015	#296
Push poll much?	marmar	Sep 2015	#299
No, "push poll" does not mean "poll whose results I don't like	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#315
If a transgender woman wants to use a restroom who cares what is between her legs?	dilby	Sep 2015	#306
Nuke the site from orbit.	Orrex	Sep 2015	#311
There is always a line at the womens restrooms	liberal N proud	Sep 2015	#314
You are a real piece of work, Nye.	morningfog	Sep 2015	#319
why is 'i am an asshole' not a response option?	La Lioness Priyanka	Sep 2015	#320
Anyone who believes themself to be an asshole is welcome to post that in the thread (nt)	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#321
i believe you are, so you should have added it as an option. nt	La Lioness Priyanka	Sep 2015	#322
That would force them to either "break character" or show some self awareness. nt	Guy Whitey Corngood	Sep 2015	#344
The option I was looking for was 'The author of this poll is a bigoted, shallow minded fool'.	Bluenorthwest	Sep 2015	#375
I won't answer your poll.	MineralMan	Sep 2015	#325
I was beginning to wonder why you hadn't voted.	Nye Bevan	Sep 2015	#330
I doubt you were wondering about that at all.	MineralMan	Sep 2015	#338
Huge straw man post! nt	longship	Sep 2015	#328
anyone have kids here???	ileus	Sep 2015	#329
Yep. Even have a daughter. The poll is still a steaming pile of transphobia. (nt)	jeff47	Sep 2015	#332
No	Capt. Obvious	Sep 2015	#334
I have two kids. n/t	gollygee	Sep 2015	#368
What a crock of shit.	Jamastiene	Sep 2015	#333
You've eaten quite the meal this week	Capt. Obvious	Sep 2015	#335
When did you stop beating your spouse? That question is just as honest as your poll.	Humanist_Activist	Sep 2015	#336
A thread to prove my point and rather perfectly.	Rex	Sep 2015	#343
I'm not sure which is worse . . .	markpkessinger	Sep 2015	#370
Bigoted push poll- and another abstention for this trash	bettyellen	Sep 2015	#372
Who gives a shit?	bobclark86	Sep 2015	#385
Yes, chilling is good...breahe....	CTyankee	Sep 2015	#387
^^ This ^^	Fearless	Sep 2015	#397
It's a bathroom. Do you have separate bathrooms for men and women at home??	Fearless	Sep 2015	#396

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