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blackspade

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142. You still haven't answered my question.....

Thu Sep 10, 2015, 09:33 PM

Sep 2015

Not that I expected you too.

That's the thing with converts to a new ideology; they're beliefs can't be questioned.

So you want honesty? here goes:
For me it comes down to choice, do I want to consume GM products or don't I?
Right now? I don't.
As far as GM products go, the jury's still out for me, and apparently a large number of other people.
I also know that I consume GM products routinely and I don't like it at all.
But, that is the current state of things.
However, I would like that to change. So, label products. Simple.
That is not a science issue. That is a money issue which is what this whole debate is really about from my perspective.

So there you have it, it boils down to choice. I believe that I have a right to choose what I consume.
Period.

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