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In reply to the discussion: It's perfectly clear that the ass who wrote those horrible letters to Bravenak has lost... [View all]lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)114. Anyone remember the 2004 Bin Laden "letter to america"?
http://www.aljazeera.com/archive/2004/11/200849163336457223.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Osama_bin_Laden_video
I doubt there are enough Sanders supporters around to qualify as "we" who would be so stupid as to believe a letter like the one sent to Bravenak would do their candidate any good.
It's often simpler to assume that when shit happens - in this case denigrating Sanders supporters at DU - it was because someone wanted it to happen, and that the intimidation Bravenak experienced is simply collateral damage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Osama_bin_Laden_video
On Oct. 29, 2004, just four days before the U.S. presidential election, al-Qaeda leader Osama bin-Laden released a videotape denouncing George W. Bush. Some Bush supporters quickly spun the diatribe as Osamas endorsement of John Kerry. But behind the walls of the CIA, analysts had concluded the opposite: that bin-Laden was trying to help Bush gain a second term.
This stunning CIA disclosure is tucked away in a brief passage near the end of Ron Suskinds The One Percent Doctrine, which draws heavily from CIA insiders. Suskind wrote that the CIA analysts based their troubling assessment on classified information, but the analysts still puzzled over exactly why bin-Laden wanted Bush to stay in office.
According to Suskinds book, CIA analysts had spent years parsing each expressed word of the al-Qaeda leader and his deputy, [Ayman] Zawahiri. What theyd learned over nearly a decade is that bin-Laden speaks only for strategic reasons.
Their [the CIAs] assessments, at days end, are a distillate of the kind of secret, internal conversations that the American public [was] not sanctioned to hear: strategic analysis. Todays conclusion: bin-Ladens message was clearly designed to assist the Presidents reelection.
This stunning CIA disclosure is tucked away in a brief passage near the end of Ron Suskinds The One Percent Doctrine, which draws heavily from CIA insiders. Suskind wrote that the CIA analysts based their troubling assessment on classified information, but the analysts still puzzled over exactly why bin-Laden wanted Bush to stay in office.
According to Suskinds book, CIA analysts had spent years parsing each expressed word of the al-Qaeda leader and his deputy, [Ayman] Zawahiri. What theyd learned over nearly a decade is that bin-Laden speaks only for strategic reasons.
Their [the CIAs] assessments, at days end, are a distillate of the kind of secret, internal conversations that the American public [was] not sanctioned to hear: strategic analysis. Todays conclusion: bin-Ladens message was clearly designed to assist the Presidents reelection.
I doubt there are enough Sanders supporters around to qualify as "we" who would be so stupid as to believe a letter like the one sent to Bravenak would do their candidate any good.
It's often simpler to assume that when shit happens - in this case denigrating Sanders supporters at DU - it was because someone wanted it to happen, and that the intimidation Bravenak experienced is simply collateral damage.
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It's perfectly clear that the ass who wrote those horrible letters to Bravenak has lost... [View all]
MrScorpio
Sep 2015
OP
Did you read the letter? I read it and I didn't immediately get that reaction.
MrScorpio
Sep 2015
#6
I think that they're actively engaging in the kind of in-fighting that been done before
MrScorpio
Sep 2015
#37
I still remember the original Obama in-fighting here, and I was just a lurker then.
raven mad
Sep 2015
#110
Why would anyone take such a crazy jackass "at their word"? They are anonymous.
lostnfound
Sep 2015
#102
The letter was written in order to get a specific point across to the target, Bravenak…
MrScorpio
Sep 2015
#106
I agree, MrScorpio.. you are absolutely right.. this is internal shite.. that letter was way too
Cha
Sep 2015
#89
I get topic-overload around here sometimes, but there can't be enough threads supporting Bravenak.
NBachers
Sep 2015
#4
I'm going to go out on a limb here and assure you and everyone else that you're not a suspect
MrScorpio
Sep 2015
#141
Bravenak is absolutely as sweet as pie, and didn't deserve hate mail sent to her house.
Starry Messenger
Sep 2015
#10
It very well could be a *member* of DU, but not really a *DU'er*...
Ghost in the Machine
Sep 2015
#43
there are loads of "respected" DUers that slam every Dem out there as well as BLM and post RW CTs...
bettyellen
Sep 2015
#122
I would have thought that 800 years would be ample time to gain an understaing of a simple concept.
OilemFirchen
Sep 2015
#113
I loathe this kind of thing. Going into someone in the real world and affecting them
roguevalley
Sep 2015
#28
I don't feel comfortable expressing support for any of the primary candidates
MrScorpio
Sep 2015
#31
Lozocolo was booted for threatening to lock good threads if he didn't get his way....
Hassin Bin Sober
Sep 2015
#101
"Considering she's on a timeout because a bunch of alerters and jury members were offended
Cha
Sep 2015
#92
It seems clear to me that outspoken DUers and AA DUers are being targeted
Generic Other
Sep 2015
#111
I'm inclined to believe that the culprit is whoever best advances my political agenda.
mhatrw
Sep 2015
#47
Just found out that Bravenak got threatening letters, that is so appalling.
akbacchus_BC
Sep 2015
#50
What happened, and what evidently continues to happen, is terrible, but is no reason to
djean111
Sep 2015
#70
I agree. Recently a very long time rather well known DUer drudged up a post of mine from 4 years ago
PeaceNikki
Sep 2015
#72
Wow.. I'm having an similar experience.. BS supporters are linking my posts from 2008 against
Cha
Sep 2015
#96
Any chance to make it personal and try to embarass their target when they're really only
Cha
Sep 2015
#100
I'm one of those people, and I posted your own words, not to make a point about Sanders
DisgustipatedinCA
Sep 2015
#168
I'm pretty positive it wasn't a hillary supporter... Come on that is conspiracy kooky bs.
boston bean
Sep 2015
#74
Trust me, I firmly believe that focusing on those misanthropic, RW goat fuckers is a waste of time
MrScorpio
Sep 2015
#87
Most of the time when something quacks, waddles and swims, you know, it's a duck…
MrScorpio
Sep 2015
#117
I think it could have been someone from over at our evil step sister's place
notadmblnd
Sep 2015
#136
So you're the victim, because you went into a safe haven forum and inveighed against a member…
MrScorpio
Sep 2015
#160
Speaking as a host for that group, banning you would be a decision that I agree with.
kwassa
Sep 2015
#165
My solution is uncovering the writer of that letter and kicking him off the site.
MrScorpio
Sep 2015
#159
Yeah, I kinda figured that you don't want to believe that a DUer would write and send that letter
MrScorpio
Sep 2015
#162