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37. I'm glad you said that...

Fri Sep 11, 2015, 04:35 PM

Sep 2015

As a hobby farmer, one of the things That I've noticed is that you can raise animals up together from babies and they get along fine. They will establish a pecking order, but they won't fight to the death. If you raise them in separate cages and then mix them, they will fight.

Those people who believe that it is human nature that we are suspicious of those 'not in our tribe' are not looking at the big picture. It's not human nature, it is a law of nature. If you take ants from one hill and put them in another hill, they'll fight to the death.

We aren't going to get along with other races, creeds and national origins just by wishing it were so. It's going to take an education that makes us appreciate the struggles of others, the culture of groups different than our own.

I think that those who believe that if we just let children grow up around people of other races that it will cure their racism are mistaken. Perhaps those youngsters raised in that environment won't respond to people of other races negatively (based solely on skin color), but they will still respond negatively toward folks from the 'outside'. We are conditioned that way from a very young age. We support our home team in sports and are encouraged to hate the people from the next town over.

If we really want to solve this problem, we have to understand it. The military takes all of the recruits in and gives them the same haircut, regardless of social status and often strong friendships are formed between people of completely different backgrounds. When one is separated from their group and forced to form bonds within a group of total strangers, I think they gain an appreciation for people from different backgrounds.

Perhaps we should do something like this to young adults as part of their education. I'm sure a lot of people would object to such a program, but I know my exposure to people from different places with different backgrounds contributed to some degree of personal growth.

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If African Americans face disparate treatment in America in general wouldn't that affect DU also? [View all] CreekDog Sep 2015 OP

Or Women or Gay people or Muslims. But the easiest target is Black because you can see it. randys1 Sep 2015 #1

Wow! I think you nailed this one! Great post! leftofcool Sep 2015 #2

Thanks...you are cool...I used to get drunk in a town called Cool... randys1 Sep 2015 #3

Yes, absolutely, I think that's true too CreekDog Sep 2015 #7

Great point and why I am FURIOUS with white people who threaten not to vote for Hillary if she is randys1 Sep 2015 #13

I was the campaign chair in our town in 1988 for Jesse Jackson when he was running for President. jalan48 Sep 2015 #25

In the primary, hell yes, i voted for him. But when he wasnt the candidate, guess what randys1 Sep 2015 #33

True. jalan48 Sep 2015 #34

This is the attitude every DUer should have. n/t pnwmom Sep 2015 #74

If Hillary wins the primary... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #50

Thank YOU randys1 Sep 2015 #51

You're welcome... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #52

Common sense yes, which is why I am suspicious of anyone and everyone randys1 Sep 2015 #53

randy, I really want to reach out to you on this. Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #94

Don't have to do anything... TipTok Sep 2015 #97

So it is your intention to not live by the Terms of Service: awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #99

Jury Results (and this is not general election season and there is no chosen candidate yet) ScreamingMeemie Sep 2015 #100

I wonder who the "Hide It" was emsimon33 Sep 2015 #103

Did you read the text of the alert? awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #105

Welcome to DU emsimon33 Sep 2015 #101

So Hillary is going to be more of a Protector, BULLSHIT, Look at her history or repeat it!!!! orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #77

That's about it. In fact, it's mild. yardwork Sep 2015 #11

Bam. n/t OneGrassRoot Sep 2015 #20

Subtle racism on DU Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #4

That should have hidden. It doesn't look very subtle to me. n/t pnwmom Sep 2015 #46

nothing subtle about that JI7 Sep 2015 #48

Subtle as a brick. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #82

Holy fuck, I had to alert on that. bettyellen Sep 2015 #98

K&R to your op and the first post in it. nt. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #5

Racism is a part of our whole society gollygee Sep 2015 #6

Of course, DU is affected. madashelltoo Sep 2015 #8

Yes. yardwork Sep 2015 #9

Boomers may remember this BumRushDaShow Sep 2015 #10

I remember that! yardwork Sep 2015 #12

They did recently introduce alternates BumRushDaShow Sep 2015 #16

You got to love 7 of those are close to actual skin tones and then the obligatory white as fuck one. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #36

like the bandaids JI7 Sep 2015 #17

Sure do. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #41

I would think that the vast majority of DUers Nye Bevan Sep 2015 #14

do you think acting on the basis of prejudice is only intentional or can it be unintentional? CreekDog Sep 2015 #15

when do they tell us that? hfojvt Sep 2015 #18

how about acknowledging seriously significant interactions? With LEO, employers, RE brokers.... bettyellen Sep 2015 #21

Absolutely correct! tech3149 Sep 2015 #19

+1 an entire shit load. Every word. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #42

All forms of privilege exist on DU, you have to be in denial to think otherwise. LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #22

k/r fishwax Sep 2015 #23

Hard-wired Roy Rolling Sep 2015 #24

you can either try to control it or control your definition of tribe. mopinko Sep 2015 #29

I'm glad you said that... Blanks Sep 2015 #37

Interesting. Most of what you are saying is very jwirr Sep 2015 #45

I think they gave up on busing too quickly... Blanks Sep 2015 #49

Agreed and the younger children are exposed the better. jwirr Sep 2015 #57

I'm not sure I understand you here tkmorris Sep 2015 #102

That would be one approach... Blanks Sep 2015 #108

As an interesting side note to what you wrote BumRushDaShow Sep 2015 #56

That's interesting... Blanks Sep 2015 #59

What you wrote is very true BumRushDaShow Sep 2015 #76

That is true. artislife Sep 2015 #61

Agree BumRushDaShow Sep 2015 #80

oops double post artislife Sep 2015 #61

Yes! n/t Tarheel_Dem Sep 2015 #26

Really tired of threads that make it about one group Shankapotomus Sep 2015 #27

It's not my group, I'm not African American CreekDog Sep 2015 #28

LOL gollygee Sep 2015 #32

Well, you see, whites a have privilege that black folk don't, speaking of selfish. jtuck004 Sep 2015 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author Glassunion Sep 2015 #47

Everyone is all about one group. Glassunion Sep 2015 #55

well-said, Glassunion Skittles Sep 2015 #60

Creekdog, who isn't black, is doing exactly what you say s/he should be doing. So what's your problem? n/t pnwmom Sep 2015 #73

I wasn't commenting on creekdog Shankapotomus Sep 2015 #75

Apparently it does. KamaAina Sep 2015 #30

Good observation. Rex Sep 2015 #31

I think as White people we define life for POC upaloopa Sep 2015 #35

If you live in a largely white area, this is something to keep in mind: pnwmom Sep 2015 #40

Thanks for that upaloopa Sep 2015 #43

I have often thougt the thoughts in your edit. But jwirr Sep 2015 #54

If I could chime in artislife Sep 2015 #63

Excellent addition to this post and it brings up the real jwirr Sep 2015 #86

And that is compounded by the fact that 80 - 90% here are Bernie supporters, pnwmom Sep 2015 #39

interesting points CreekDog Sep 2015 #44

Maybe because fellow Bernie supporters who are Poc artislife Sep 2015 #64

I've been here for a while and never seen anything like this, in terms of the alert situation. pnwmom Sep 2015 #65

As to alert stalking. nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #67

The alerting needs a firm boundary for sure artislife Sep 2015 #68

Everybody rolls their eyes, I bet. Or the equivalent. pnwmom Sep 2015 #69

To be honest artislife Sep 2015 #70

You're welcome, artislife. And I'm glad you're here! And keep pushing for a better world pnwmom Sep 2015 #72

"White supremacy" and "White America" doesn't simply mean Klan hoods and Stormfront Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #58

Implicit bias nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #66

But they are crystal clear, and I share them . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #79

There are plenty of racists everywhere. Alabama, Vermont, law firms, democratic message boards alcibiades_mystery Sep 2015 #71

K&R! stonecutter357 Sep 2015 #78

I have no idea who any of you are, your race or morningfog Sep 2015 #81

K&R Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #83

Yes. No. LWolf Sep 2015 #84

That is the beauty of the internet artislife Sep 2015 #87

Yes. LWolf Sep 2015 #90

How do you find out a DU-er's race... Android3.14 Sep 2015 #85

"parade the claim" "a specific class of humans" Gormy Cuss Sep 2015 #89

Some pretty blanket assumptions there, Mr. Cuss Android3.14 Sep 2015 #91

Pretty blanket statement there, Android3.14 Gormy Cuss Sep 2015 #93

You have a name that means dirty-faced stubborn person Android3.14 Sep 2015 #96

Nope, wrong again. Gormy Cuss Sep 2015 #107

Disagree Android3.14 Sep 2015 #109

So, it's better to make up stuff based on one's biases opinions Gormy Cuss Sep 2015 #110

If you rarely consider race, gender, or sexual orientation then chances are pnwmom Sep 2015 #112

"PARADE THE CLAIM AROUND"? Making a race "claim" is adopting a label that's "a red flag"? pnwmom Sep 2015 #111

Thanks CreekDog artislife Sep 2015 #88

Not in the least loyalsister Sep 2015 #92

Yes. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #95

Should we believe we can determine from internet posts whether someone self-identifies as A-A, struggle4progress Sep 2015 #104

As long as people sort, lable and categorize each other into neat little groups notadmblnd Sep 2015 #106

It likely doesn't stop here. But here we should try, in good faith, to sort out thought & language ancianita Sep 2015 #113

Now you are opening a whole new can of worms! akbacchus_BC Sep 2015 #114