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Fred Sanders

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1. Why did America stray from it's founding principles?
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 09:28 PM
Sep 2015

"Why do we accept this crude and injurious public behavior? Why do we now expect so very little from a major presidential aspirant? How have we managed to stray so completely from maintaining even embarrassingly low intellectual standards for our presidential candidates?"

Because America strayed from it's founding principles when the only business given protection in the Constitution abandoned it's quid pro quo promise to guard America from the fascists and zealots and liars and conmen and did so by simply and systematically abandoning all pretence of valuing truth.


As famously said by journalist A. J. Liebling, "Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one." The individuals, businesses, and organizations that own a means of publication are able to publish information and opinions without government interference, and cannot be compelled by the government to publish information and opinions that they disagree with. For example, the owner of a printing press cannot be required to print advertisements for a political opponent, even if the printer normally accepts commercial printing jobs.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_the_press_in_the_United_States

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How Far We Have Fallen [View all] damnedifIknow Sep 2015 OP
Why did America stray from it's founding principles? Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #1
It's all about the accumulation of wealth. Some here favor Clinton IMO because they rhett o rick Sep 2015 #7
Well said! Valuing wealth as the yardstick of success and qualifications will further erode the US. RKP5637 Sep 2015 #9
^^^^^THIS X 1,000 ^^^^^ OffWithTheirHeads Sep 2015 #10
It started after WWII when America decided it was going to promote Capitalism.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #21
America never promoted capitalism, it imposed it with it's brand new huge and hardened military. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #25
We installed a LOT of Right Wing dictators in Central and South America.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #31
A number of threads in our culture come together here. SheilaT Sep 2015 #2
^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri Sep 2015 #8
Exceptionally well said! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2015 #11
My high school used to have a massive copper domed observatory on the roof.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #22
Could not agree with you more deutsey Sep 2015 #28
Very disturbing. DCBob Sep 2015 #3
Armed with tools such as the patriot act damnedifIknow Sep 2015 #4
It will be a horrible fork in the road for the US as it descends into a dictatorship and many in RKP5637 Sep 2015 #12
We are the same people who elected Reagan twice... TreasonousBastard Sep 2015 #5
I do not see Trump as a strong leader Skittles Sep 2015 #13
I agree. He's not strong-- he's a loudmouth bullshitter... TreasonousBastard Sep 2015 #15
A master manipulator blowing smoke in a media house of mirrors. Surya Gayatri Sep 2015 #17
Same here!!! RKP5637 Sep 2015 #14
What do we expect in the land of reality tv? Avalux Sep 2015 #6
Quite frankly, Blus4u Sep 2015 #16
He is the President this country deserves. Katashi_itto Sep 2015 #18
Stupidity and ignorance plays a part in it zeemike Sep 2015 #19
"Why do we accept this crude and injurious public behavior?" lastlib Sep 2015 #20
And any time people do remember and try to do something deutsey Sep 2015 #29
It was only a matter of time before the Clown Car found their Clown Prince. Rex Sep 2015 #23
Bullshit MoveIt Sep 2015 #24
I know how I felt when Bush won the second Election yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #26
Bush was an epic disaster for this country damnedifIknow Sep 2015 #30
Mother Jones: (He's not the first 'Trump'.) The 5 Times America Elected Donald Trump pampango Sep 2015 #27
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