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In reply to the discussion: Anti-war protesters were right. Iraq invasion has led to chaos. [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)98. Recycled Reactionaries R Them

It's like they never left, with all the PNAC Stay-Behinds to welcome Jebthro home.
A miracle that President Obama and Sec. Kerry have gotten anything done for peace.
Neocons and Liberals Together, Again
The neoconservative Project for the New American Century (PNAC) has signaled its intention to continue shaping the government's national security...
Tom Barry, last updated: February 02, 2005
The neoconservative Project for the New American Century (PNAC) has signaled its intention to continue shaping the government's national security strategy with a new public letter stating that the "U.S. military is too small for the responsibilities we are asking it to assume." Rather than reining in the imperial scope of U.S. national security strategy as set forth by the first Bush administration, PNAC and the letter's signatories call for increasing the size of America's global fighting machine.
SNIP...
Liberal Hawks Fly with the Neocons
The recent PNAC letter to Congress was not the first time that PNAC or its associated front groups, such as the Coalition for the Liberation of Iraq, have included hawkish Democrats.
Two PNAC letters in March 2003 played to those Democrats who believed that the invasion was justified at least as much by humanitarian concerns as it was by the purported presence of weapons of mass destruction. PNAC and the neocon camp had managed to translate their military agenda of preemptive and preventive strikes into national security policy. With the invasion underway, they sought to preempt those hardliners and military officials who opted for a quick exit strategy in Iraq. In their March 19th letter, PNAC stated that Washington should plan to stay in Iraq for the long haul: "Everyone-those who have joined the coalition, those who have stood aside, those who opposed military action, and, most of all, the Iraqi people and their neighbors-must understand that we are committed to the rebuilding of Iraq and will provide the necessary resources and will remain for as long as it takes."
Along with such neocon stalwarts as Robert Kagan, Bruce Jackson, Joshua Muravchik, James Woolsey, and Eliot Cohen, a half-dozen Democrats were among the 23 individuals who signed PNAC's first letter on post-war Iraq. Among the Democrats were Ivo Daalder of the Brookings Institution and a member of Clinton's National Security Council staff; Martin Indyk, Clinton's ambassador to Israel; Will Marshall of the Progressive Policy Institute and Democratic Leadership Council; Dennis Ross, Clinton's top adviser on the Israel-Palestinian negotiations; and James Steinberg, Clinton's deputy national security adviser and head of foreign policy studies at Brookings. A second post-Iraq war letter by PNAC on March 28 called for broader international support for reconstruction, including the involvement of NATO, and brought together the same Democrats with the prominent addition of another Brookings' foreign policy scholar, Michael O'Hanlon.
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http://rightweb.irc-online.org/articles/display/Neocons_and_Liberals_Together_Again
That's from Rightweb. They're full of facts, for those who take the time to read and learn. One name to pay attention to is Victoria Nuland, our woman in Ukraine, who is married to PNAC co-founder Robert Kagan. Robert Kagan's brother is Frederick Kagan. Frederick Kagan's spouse is Kimberly Kagan.
Brilliant people, big ideas, etc. The thing is, that's a lot of PNAC and the PNAC approach to international relations means more wars without end for profits without cease, among other things detrimental to democracy, peace and justice.
After Kiev, it's on to Moscow. They really need the money. And PNAC members don't care who dies in stealing it.
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What was most to Halliburton's advantage? Two different options at two two different times.
maddiemom
Sep 2015
#61
"the cost has been too great" < I don't think the costs have even started yet. There is a big
jtuck004
Sep 2015
#4
Dem Establishment in 2016 puts up a candidate who voted to authorize the travesty
Dems to Win
Sep 2015
#8
I can't forget that video of Wes Clark telling about the 7 countries we would invade.
madfloridian
Sep 2015
#36
Also it does not help when your occupying force leaves behind guns, ammo, armored vehicles
Rex
Sep 2015
#70
"Call Congress right fucking now!" has become a reality instead of a tag line!
CTyankee
Sep 2015
#31
The same crew, Third Way Dems and repubs, will do it all again when the war drums
Zorra
Sep 2015
#54
Project for a New American Century should be all the evidence anyone needs to convict Cheney
Rex
Sep 2015
#74
Said it then, I'll say it again, "You can start a war, but you can't just stop it."
L. Coyote
Sep 2015
#79
It was supposed to be, in their crackpot plans, a quick and dirty conquest. The $$$$$ would be in
WinkyDink
Sep 2015
#91
Well, yes, that too, however, cheney*/bush* knew (well cheney*knew, bush* muddled through it...
Raster
Sep 2015
#92
I still beg to differ. They built the US's largest embasssy ever in Iraq. I think they wanted an
WinkyDink
Sep 2015
#95
I don't think we differ that much. Yes, we built the world's largest, most hardened embassy in Iraq
Raster
Sep 2015
#96
Heh---Your allusion to Puerto Rico got me thinking of "West Side Story." "I like to be in the
WinkyDink
Sep 2015
#103
Iraq seems to be a major cause, especially regarding Kurds and Iran ...
JustABozoOnThisBus
Sep 2015
#89
Yet another "N S, S" moment for the media to take note of, too little, too late.
WinkyDink
Sep 2015
#90
I remember how anthropologists who understood the region tried to be heard...
polichick
Sep 2015
#101