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mr blur

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78. Yes, but that's his problem. It makes him repugnant.

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Sun Sep 20, 2015, 07:24 AM

Sep 2015

Misogynistic, anti-gay, anti-equality, anti-contraception, anti-abortion. He's a hypocritical bigot.

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Pope Francis Smacks Churches: “If You Don’t Help the Poor and Needy, then Pay Taxes Like a Business” [View all] damnedifIknow Sep 2015 OP

WOW. nt LiberalElite Sep 2015 #1

Sounding more and more like a Godless socialist just before his WH welcome reception on Wedneday. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #2

I truly believe he is a good man. gvstn Sep 2015 #8

I do think he's aware of the possibility coolepairc Sep 2015 #48

Yeah, I remember that. gvstn Sep 2015 #62

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #3

Is he asking the Catholic Church in the USA to pay taxes? BKH70041 Sep 2015 #4

Do you hear that Joel? damnedifIknow Sep 2015 #5

I had no idea who that is and had to look it up. BKH70041 Sep 2015 #7

It's all these Protestant mega-churches that we need to worry about. smirkymonkey Sep 2015 #43

Some of the right wing Catholics I know are not liking the Popes message WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2015 #50

Why don't you check and see for yourself how many charities the Catholic church runs and supports demosincebirth Sep 2015 #70

Maybe it's more like he's the equivalent of an olden day British King ... Babel_17 Sep 2015 #32

so pope darling when are YOU and YOUR church gonna start paying taxes? hypocrite nt msongs Sep 2015 #6

Perhaps you didn't understand the reference "convent" in the quote struggle4progress Sep 2015 #12

The Archdiocese of NY is the largest non governmental real estate holder in NYC. So.... Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #35

NY allows nonprofit orgs to conduct tax-exempt activities that generate profits, if the profits struggle4progress Sep 2015 #46

End the religious exemption and let them refile as a non profit Lordquinton Sep 2015 #66

2013. Next question. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #57

That IS what he is saying to HIS churches. Either help the poor/needy, or pay taxes. MADem Sep 2015 #59

I'd love to know of one merely person who's not a hypocrite. I also love fiction. LanternWaste Sep 2015 #143

Oh that is rich ... and I mean rich. Arugula Latte Sep 2015 #9

supreme hypocrisy Skittles Sep 2015 #10

Hey - the Vatican took in 840high Sep 2015 #21

But he is helping the poor. progressoid Sep 2015 #39

The Vatican has been there since before the medieval age treestar Sep 2015 #82

The Vatican is sitting on mountains of gold, real estate & huge amounts of $$. Arugula Latte Sep 2015 #88

Precisely how much are they sitting on, and how many mouths will that feed for how many years? LanternWaste Sep 2015 #144

Right. Nobody knows. The Vatican isn't exactly known for its transparency. Arugula Latte Sep 2015 #147

First mancrush ever! Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2015 #11

no matter what this man does to the most roguevalley Sep 2015 #25

Ditto here. I can't help but like him. nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #27

He really does to seem to believe in the basics of Catholic teachings. gvstn Sep 2015 #28

He's just restating what Christ taught. n/t AngryOldDem Sep 2015 #36

He possibly represents a new awakening - just in the nick of time. Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2015 #63

newsflash Skittles Sep 2015 #75

Yes, but that's his problem. It makes him repugnant. mr blur Sep 2015 #78

Popes that don't follow dogma, suddenly die. gvstn Sep 2015 #116

"Popes that don't follow dogma, suddenly die." Rob H. Sep 2015 #121

Radical Popes get poisoned, or did back in the day. gvstn Sep 2015 #123

People from all walks of life got poisoned back in the day... LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #124

Popes are just people. gvstn Sep 2015 #128

He IS THE CHURCH and can issue infallable edicts LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #129

I hate the way you use the word bigot to discribe Pope Francis. gvstn Sep 2015 #132

Desmond Tutu? Anyone Liberal who is for women's and gay rights? LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #134

Obviously gvstn Sep 2015 #137

How else would you describe him? Hypocrite? mr blur Sep 2015 #136

This is spectacularly amusing since the popes minions were major plaintiffs in suing to block AtheistCrusader Sep 2015 #125

No, he's pretty much toeing the same line Benedict did Lordquinton Sep 2015 #126

You'll see he will make changes. gvstn Sep 2015 #127

I can because I used to be Catholic and he hasn't changed ANYTHING in over two years (nt). LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #130

He hasn't said anything different from Benedict Lordquinton Sep 2015 #131

Yup, he is a goddamn hater. gvstn Sep 2015 #133

Tell that to all the people who died because the RCC tells them they can't use contraception LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #135

Yes he is a hater Lordquinton Sep 2015 #138

I am saying one man can't change 1500 years of doctrine in a day. gvstn Sep 2015 #140

Exactily what doctrine is he trying to change? Lordquinton Sep 2015 #148

The Catholic Church is killing people. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #139

I have no love for the Catholic Church. gvstn Sep 2015 #141

His church, his bishops are *killing people* PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #142

I call things "better PR" if I have to make up stuff, too. LanternWaste Sep 2015 #146

He literally hired a PR man straight from FOX news Lordquinton Sep 2015 #149

+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2015 #44

You will never win...not here on DU. demosincebirth Sep 2015 #71

You admire a man who actively fought against gay marriage in Argentina? LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #122

ha ha, love you Elmer S. E. Dump....... a kennedy Sep 2015 #33

60 years, still 16 at heart. Only YOU define yourself. Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2015 #61

Holy . . . Shit! NBachers Sep 2015 #13

He Said It Yallow Sep 2015 #14

here's whats's worse... StoneCarver Sep 2015 #53

It's a little hypocritical but at least he said it. YOHABLO Sep 2015 #15

My thoughts exactly. *Somebody* had to say it. n/t nomorenomore08 Sep 2015 #17

It will take a Second Coming to fix this Demeter Sep 2015 #16

SANDERS-POPE FRANCIS 2016 Left Coast2020 Sep 2015 #18

Heh! YES! Add Elizabeth Warren . . . cer7711 Sep 2015 #22

OMGosh, now that's a winning ticket.... eom a kennedy Sep 2015 #34

Pleas stop suggesting an anti gay bigot who opposes contraception as if he was a good person. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #37

This can't be said often enough. bvf Sep 2015 #47

+1000000000 gollygee Sep 2015 #51

For the love of Athena someone Pin Bluenorthwest's reply to the top of this forum LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #67

What am utterly offensive and disgusting suggestion. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #45

Offensive and disgusting suggestion, no. Stupid? Yes. demosincebirth Sep 2015 #72

Did you miss the part where I said, "... even in jest"? I stand by my reply. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #73

It's all three Rob H. Sep 2015 #74

aw don't you know? Skittles Sep 2015 #76

Me Likes The Pope Francis Smack Down - Go Pope Go cantbeserious Sep 2015 #19

Wow squared! Duppers Sep 2015 #20

Yes! SoapBox Sep 2015 #23

This liberal progressive agnostic raised evangelical loves him some Pope Frank! phleshdef Sep 2015 #24

Frankie Two Sticks merrily Sep 2015 #30

I like this Pope. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #26

And, according to the right wing, Jesuits are Socialist. merrily Sep 2015 #31

Has anyone sent this link to the IRS? merrily Sep 2015 #29

They don't need to. The IRS is smarter than the Pope. former9thward Sep 2015 #52

Since he was apparently referring to European practice truebluegreen Sep 2015 #56

Now let's see... former9thward Sep 2015 #58

The posters in this thread are responsible for deciding who the Pope was talking to? truebluegreen Sep 2015 #64

It is you that just wants to argue. former9thward Sep 2015 #65

In practice, the IRS is much more lenient to Catholic churches and their activities than that. merrily Sep 2015 #77

The IRS is like most government bodies. former9thward Sep 2015 #80

Then churches are taxed on their property like any other business? Orrex Sep 2015 #87

The land is not being used to generate profit. former9thward Sep 2015 #89

That's an obvious attempt at distraction Orrex Sep 2015 #90

Their businesses ARE taxed like any other business. former9thward Sep 2015 #91

I have this fantasy in which you give an honest and straighforward answer Orrex Sep 2015 #92

And I have the same fantasy about you. former9thward Sep 2015 #95

In short, you now concede that churches are not taxed the same as other corporations Orrex Sep 2015 #97

Not businesses like child care which are on school or church grounds PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #93

Does it generate a profit for the church? former9thward Sep 2015 #96

We don't know because churches are not accountable. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #98

Of course they are. former9thward Sep 2015 #99

No, they aren't. They do not have to file financial disclose like other non profits. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #100

Wait--are you saying that they're not accountable like other businesses? Orrex Sep 2015 #101

So? former9thward Sep 2015 #106

I'll tell you where I live: reality. I'm a contributing member of FFRF and ACLU, both of which PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #111

You are allowing a church to cheat. former9thward Sep 2015 #114

Lol PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #115

They are also not subject to audit "like anyone else". That's PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #102

They are subject to audit. former9thward Sep 2015 #104

But do they pay taxes like other businesses? Orrex Sep 2015 #105

I have said yes on their businesses countless times in this thread. former9thward Sep 2015 #108

But they don't pay property taxes like other businesses Orrex Sep 2015 #109

Not "just like anybody else". PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #110

You tried to imply they could not be audited. former9thward Sep 2015 #112

Oh, ffs. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #113

Now that I think about it... Orrex Sep 2015 #119

Oh, great. Igel Sep 2015 #38

Bravo. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Sep 2015 #40

and how about when they play politics, which they shouldn't be doing with their tax-exempt status? niyad Sep 2015 #41

Awesome!! BuddhaGirl Sep 2015 #42

They expect. 10% tithe, they should use at lease 10% for charity. alfredo Sep 2015 #49

The Pope does not know U.S. tax code. former9thward Sep 2015 #54

According to the article, he was addressing a common practice in Europe. MADem Sep 2015 #60

What about church property? Orrex Sep 2015 #81

Oh, hell no. And the RCC and LDS churches are the biggest drain on local communities in this regard. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #83

Thank you. Orrex Sep 2015 #84

Absolutely. The congregants use public roads to attend church, PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #85

Also, other non profits are far more accountable than the churches. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #86

I love this man angryvet Sep 2015 #55

Unless things have changed TexasProgresive Sep 2015 #68

Kick and R BeanMusical Sep 2015 #69

Did he sell all their treasures??? ileus Sep 2015 #79

they sure don't give to the poor and needy fadedrose Sep 2015 #94

Oh Bravo! Faux pas Sep 2015 #103

WWJD? K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #107

Pope Francis is to the Catholic Church as Bernie Sanders is to Politics. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #117

Am so enjoying RW heads spinning over this Pope OldHippieChick Sep 2015 #118

K&R! Omaha Steve Sep 2015 #120

Dear Pope Francis flamingdem Sep 2015 #145