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43. I never accepted nor will, any brow beating from Third Wayers, we KNEW our party had been

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:37 AM

Sep 2015

infiltrated and their talking points and personal attacks on the Left totally gave them away. Watch how angry they become when people use the term 'Third Way'. They started out calling it a 'CT' but people were not about to let anyone deny the existence of this Right Wing group within our party, that is why they are now so desperate. Voters refused to elect their Third Way candidats in two mid terms now, mainly because contrary to their arrogant beliefs, the people are NOT stupid.

And now their plot to take over the party has been thoroughly exposed, their tactics don't work so well anymore.

No one should leave the party, though many have, it is the People's Party and we should make sure that if anyone leaves, it is those who plotted and succeeded in turning it into Republican Lite.

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It's Al From's Democratic Party..the rest of us just live here. The takeover. [View all] madfloridian Sep 2015 OP

"ideologically rigid sectarian..." villager Sep 2015 #1

Best thing I've seen on DU in a long time. leveymg Sep 2015 #2

..... madfloridian Sep 2015 #4

Excellent post! Mr. Evil Sep 2015 #111

I concur; however, ... . emsimon33 Sep 2015 #19

Agreed. Excellent post. Required reading Euphoria Sep 2015 #27

Thank you. madfloridian Sep 2015 #37

We knew something was wrong with our party for a long time. I remember encountering sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #40

What angers me so is that it was a planned takeover. madfloridian Sep 2015 #116

Yes, it apparently was cynically planned without even considering Democrats at all. And then sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #117

That *they* were financed well. That *they* had the $$ backers. delrem Sep 2015 #123

K & R. This information is very helpful for understanding what's happened in the last 20 years appalachiablue Sep 2015 #3

We are about in the same place. madfloridian Sep 2015 #5

The discontent and differing philosphies of the two factions of the party are growing day by day. appalachiablue Sep 2015 #10

The People, on both sides of the aisle, are disgusted with 'politics as usual.' CrispyQ Sep 2015 #62

Time for a new artislife Sep 2015 #6

Past time. madfloridian Sep 2015 #8

Exactly. Been thinking that for a long time, Dems have to infiltrate their own party and I think sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #41

I don't think we knew because there was no internet back then. madfloridian Sep 2015 #129

The Koch Brothers tie in bl968 Sep 2015 #7

Let me underscore: It was not only Koch money. Two Koch employees sat on the board of the DLC. merrily Sep 2015 #22

I wonder how many of the other DLC Board members were part of the Koch network. hedda_foil Sep 2015 #73

Madfloridian. ,Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for this fantastic post. You rock! hedda_foil Sep 2015 #74

Hi, hedda...I think the book came out just last year. Sounds like he owns our party. madfloridian Sep 2015 #84

I don't know the answer to your question. merrily Sep 2015 #80

hedda, I still have quotes from a post of yours in 2002... madfloridian Sep 2015 #130

That's amazing, madflo. I like what you did with it. hedda_foil Sep 2015 #131

Yep, that's when the party started it's corruption addiction then with the Kochaine Koolaid! cascadiance Sep 2015 #104

Excellent OP! dreamnightwind Sep 2015 #9

Well said. Duppers Sep 2015 #12

+1 a huge bunch! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #15

Not just the rot of our party. The rot of our country. NAFTA, jwirr Sep 2015 #47

Completely agree! dreamnightwind Sep 2015 #124

Thank you. I wish I was able to write good enough to do a jwirr Sep 2015 #125

K & RRRR! Required reading for we on "The Professional Left" Duppers Sep 2015 #11

Fucking r****ds was even better. And the apology went to Palin, not the intended targets of the merrily Sep 2015 #23

They had lots of labels for the Left, and among their favorite attacks whenever anyone sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #42

This: I believe the Third Way despises the Left far, far more than they despise the Right. --nt CrispyQ Sep 2015 #63

There is evidence that the 3rd Way "Centrists" would rather give a Congressional seat bvar22 Sep 2015 #100

Yes, they really do. We threaten their "bipartisanship" dreams. madfloridian Sep 2015 #65

Yes, all that 'compromising' and 'bi-partisanship' with people who are so extreme never sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #70

Of course they do. They can manipulate the Right but not the Far Left. Some are too easily rhett o rick Sep 2015 #102

Cass Sunstein always preached "harmony", be nice, don't go after war criminals... madfloridian Sep 2015 #133

Because we are not the professional politicians. We are just ordinary people. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #60

I cringe whenever I hear someone call them conservatives. CrispyQ Sep 2015 #64

It's gonna take a LONG time to purge the party of these people. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #13

We better get started. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #16

Yep...we have a lot of work to do!!! haikugal Sep 2015 #39

I'm so bloody sick of the Clintons. Arugula Latte Sep 2015 #53

2010 was a good start Oilwellian Sep 2015 #57

K&R Paka Sep 2015 #14

Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #17

Miserable conniving rat bastards that willingly sacrifice the rest of us. Fucking Elitists indeed! Ford_Prefect Sep 2015 #18

A must read for all Democrats. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #20

Its interesting how they believed if Bill became President that they could reform the entire Party. stillwaiting Sep 2015 #21

Well, in Congress, as an Indie, he managed to accomplish more than Hillary did as a Dem. merrily Sep 2015 #24

Good point. Those who say that Bernie didn't accomplish anything in Congress are 1 of 2 things. nt stillwaiting Sep 2015 #25

Uninformed or lying? merrily Sep 2015 #26

Yes, our focus must remain on getting Bernie elected because jwirr Sep 2015 #49

Moderate Republicans from the 1980s, perhaps? merrily Sep 2015 #50

Yes, Reagan Democrats!!! jwirr Sep 2015 #52

Compassionate conservatives? Even though I want Bernie to be the nominee, merrily Sep 2015 #56

I never accepted nor will, any brow beating from Third Wayers, we KNEW our party had been sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #43

Lies in the OP. There is no McGovern Mondale wing of any Party. Mondale was centrist. merrily Sep 2015 #28

Not my lies, their lies? madfloridian Sep 2015 #31

No, no madfloridian. Not your lies. NEVER yours. In the material of others quoted in your OP. merrily Sep 2015 #46

I knew you meant that...just kidding. madfloridian Sep 2015 #72

I think you have it backward: Maedhros Sep 2015 #91

Fixed. I meant to say the more say we the people have, the less the country will go right. merrily Sep 2015 #115

Great, great piece, mad! in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #29

And don't forget, War for Profit and Imperialism. sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #44

Your list is great...spot on. madfloridian Sep 2015 #108

So, what I "felt" happening fredamae Sep 2015 #30

Seems the guy thinks ''Liberal'' is a bad word. Octafish Sep 2015 #32

Yes, From wrote this piece about charter schools in 2000. madfloridian Sep 2015 #33

Al From's charter school hogwash, then, sounds just like Jeb Bush's today. seafan Sep 2015 #82

Wow seafan, coming from you that means a lot. Yes, it does sound like Jeb Bush. madfloridian Sep 2015 #83

Al of a piece. Octafish Sep 2015 #90

Octafish, more on that education reform stuff... madfloridian Sep 2015 #34

Walton Foundation comes in here... Octafish Sep 2015 #92

Do you think that DLC/Third Way types laugh when unions endorse them? stillwaiting Sep 2015 #48

I think you are right. jwirr Sep 2015 #55

Al the Way to the Bank Octafish Sep 2015 #93

Very good point regarding Unions. jwirr Sep 2015 #51

Unions need money also. I know teachers' AFT got millions from Gates for ed reform. madfloridian Sep 2015 #81

Yeah, I have three Union members in my family and they do jwirr Sep 2015 #89

Solidarity brought down the Polish communist government. Octafish Sep 2015 #95

I know that the Union is stronger than people think it is. jwirr Sep 2015 #97

Awesome post! FloriTexan Sep 2015 #35

Hi, glad to be informative. madfloridian Sep 2015 #36

Thank you for this!! haikugal Sep 2015 #38

Thank you, excellent post! dae Sep 2015 #45

essential reading, k&r NuttyFluffers Sep 2015 #54

Thank you for posting, madfloridian Oilwellian Sep 2015 #58

Thanks. K& R. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #59

The Centrists have "Third Way", and the Progressives have "MoveON" brooklynite Sep 2015 #61

We are fighting for that right now. Asking that all voices be heard on equal platforms... madfloridian Sep 2015 #66

MoveOn and The Third Way are not even comparable. TM99 Sep 2015 #77

If they're not comparable, maybe you should start an advocacy group that is? brooklynite Sep 2015 #87

Please don't the insulting "real world" theme here. It's a put down. madfloridian Sep 2015 #88

Because he agrees with it? ibegurpard Sep 2015 #98

MoveOn is a part of the Democratic Party Organization Chart. Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #109

MoveOn has to do with us Progresive Activists? Exactly how? truedelphi Sep 2015 #94

2001 Al From blamed Gore's loss on Bush painting him as liberal. madfloridian Sep 2015 #67

And he chose a VP candidate who eventually became a republican arcane1 Sep 2015 #126

Or to be perfectly honest, already acted like a Republican. madfloridian Sep 2015 #128

filed under: "stuff every Democrat should know" . . . . . . n/t annabanana Sep 2015 #68

Great Post! NonMetro Sep 2015 #69

"The Democratic Party of FDR and JFK ended in 1992." madfloridian Sep 2015 #75

Thanks! NonMetro Sep 2015 #78

In fairness, Carter, though a wonderful ex-prez, ushered in deregulation RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #103

Clinton basically undid The New Deal, deceiving the majority of the Democratic Party. As Thom Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #71

K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #76

Sam Nunn: "Now we are viewed as the brains of the party." madfloridian Sep 2015 #79

Al From wasn't really honest in his book about HOW the DCL got started. bvar22 Sep 2015 #85

Al is tooting his own horn. madfloridian Sep 2015 #86

Thanks Bvar. it is always so worthwhile to see posts from truedelphi Sep 2015 #96

I like Al From. He's a good man. Yes, he has corporatist ideals, but the Democratic Party probably NYCButterfinger Sep 2015 #99

Never said they were bad people. I said they are in control of the party. That's wrong. madfloridian Sep 2015 #106

I understand. Southerners like Henry, Bredesen need to have bigger voices in the party. NYCButterfinger Sep 2015 #113

None of that allays this bogeyman for them Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #107

There that's condescending tone again, Capn. I did not say any of those things. madfloridian Sep 2015 #110

We know full well what the DLC and the Third Way are all about. They are not here to help the 99% rhett o rick Sep 2015 #112

I guess you missed the part where I mentioned they are done? Over? Closed? Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #118

And they all died along with their ideology. Really? nm rhett o rick Sep 2015 #119

I honestly thought From was Dead. Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #120

And you are certain their are no "bogymen" because everything is perfect in the Land of Status Quo. rhett o rick Sep 2015 #122

Tsongas was actually a lot more fiscally conservative than Clinton was. StevieM Sep 2015 #121

DURec leftstreet Sep 2015 #101

Deep Thanks to Mad Floridian McKim Sep 2015 #105

a must read G_j Sep 2015 #114

A kick and the 201st rec! arcane1 Sep 2015 #127

Yet, we're told we must vote for these kind of people because they have a (D) after their name. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #132

Kick bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #134

Giving this thread a kick for the evening crowd mrdmk Apr 2016 #135

Thanks for this research! YellowMango Jun 2016 #136