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G_j

(40,372 posts)
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 12:55 PM Sep 2015

The impossible just happened in Texas [View all]

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-impossible-just-happened-in-texas-2015-9?utm_content=buffer58f9a&utm_medium=blog&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=Epoca+Now+via+Buffer

Daniel Gross, Slate
Sep. 20, 2015, 4:02 PM


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Austin, Texas.

In the wee hours of the morning on Sunday, the mighty state of Texas was asleep.

The honky-tonks in Austin were shuttered, the air-conditioned office towers of Houston were powered down, and the wind whistled through the dogwood trees and live oaks on the gracious lawns of Preston Hollow.

Out in the desolate flats of West Texas, the same wind was turning hundreds of wind turbines, producing tons of electricity at a time when comparatively little supply was needed.

And then a very strange thing happened: The so-called spot price of electricity in Texas fell toward zero, hit zero, and then went negative for several hours.

As the Lone Star State slumbered, power producers were paying the state's electricity system to take electricity off their hands. At one point, the negative price was $8.52 per megawatt hour.

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Solar and wind power will never work! Human101948 Sep 2015 #1
It simply isn't feasible! KansDem Sep 2015 #2
I'm expecting that some day state legislatures SheilaT Sep 2015 #9
ALEC is probably burning brain cells right now on that. 47of74 Sep 2015 #36
A comedian once said, CrispyQ Sep 2015 #18
What good would it do at midnight? eggplant Sep 2015 #24
Lots of thing! Could be exported, could be stored, but the point is the abundant energy everywhere. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #37
Do I really have to explain the joke? eggplant Sep 2015 #52
It wasn't funny, don't bother... Human101948 Sep 2015 #64
Funny... Funny... Funny rpannier Sep 2015 #54
Aw, thx! eggplant Sep 2015 #58
I have to give credit where credit is due rpannier Sep 2015 #65
:-D n/t eggplant Sep 2015 #66
Perfect storm for big money passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #21
Not for billionaires, only for humans. nt valerief Sep 2015 #12
Of course not! BobTheSubgenius Sep 2015 #60
If it becomes too efficient, sulphurdunn Sep 2015 #62
wow SoLeftIAmRight Sep 2015 #3
WOW Omaha Steve Sep 2015 #4
I drive from Amarillo to littlebit Sep 2015 #5
Isn't that like a twelve hour drive in each direction? SheilaT Sep 2015 #10
No it's about 537 miles. littlebit Sep 2015 #15
I hope that's a job and not a commute!!! Gore1FL Sep 2015 #19
It is littlebit Sep 2015 #25
Oops. Didn't read your response SheilaT Sep 2015 #28
Ssshhhhh... CanSocDem Sep 2015 #31
Not for one driver. littlebit Sep 2015 #47
Thanks for the clarification. SheilaT Sep 2015 #49
Our port off loads wind turbine blades everyday now. You see them going out by rail and truck all Dustlawyer Sep 2015 #34
Yeah I see the blades for them every so often here in eastern Iowa 47of74 Sep 2015 #38
From the air flying at low altitude you can see thousands of them at once Major Nikon Sep 2015 #45
K&R closeupready Sep 2015 #6
And here's the real reason; A HERETIC I AM Sep 2015 #7
And only in Texas because Texas' power grid is self-contained and aren't linked with . . . brush Sep 2015 #56
Yeah I've been thinking of getting my dad to consider solar power for the farm; 47of74 Sep 2015 #8
Probably he would never pay an electric bill again. Volaris Sep 2015 #13
Try this calculator jeff47 Sep 2015 #14
I just wish Bernie's Marty McGraw Sep 2015 #22
cool 47of74 Sep 2015 #35
I was talking to an electric co. employee recently... Beartracks Sep 2015 #40
That's assuming people actually go off-grid. jeff47 Sep 2015 #41
You make it sound like cloud computing. Beartracks Sep 2015 #42
A little. jeff47 Sep 2015 #44
I know a farmer in NW Iowa that put up his own wind generator. progressoid Sep 2015 #27
A long way from Enron. kairos12 Sep 2015 #11
But but but but......oil and natural gas and coal and uranium... Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #16
And how much of that will be passed on to the consumer? hobbit709 Sep 2015 #17
I'm currently locked into a 6.2 cent per KwH rate Major Nikon Sep 2015 #46
K/R Jack Rabbit Sep 2015 #20
kick Angry Dragon Sep 2015 #23
Sounds like a "windfall" profit for those shorting the Southwest electricity futures market. leveymg Sep 2015 #26
I worked for a year out of Midland and Odessa (West Texas). bvar22 Sep 2015 #29
Saying in that area: The wind is always blowing sand, except when it's blowing ice. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #30
That is not an exaggeration. bvar22 Sep 2015 #32
here in So. NM we get service fron El Paso Electric, I gave solar!! Gloria Sep 2015 #33
K&R. Okay TX. n/t ion_theory Sep 2015 #39
If I'm not mistaken, T Bone Pickins owns a lot of those windmills. Stinky The Clown Sep 2015 #43
Not as many as originally planned TexasBushwhacker Sep 2015 #55
Pickens is right, the government should build the lines like Ike did the interstates . . . brush Sep 2015 #57
Not to mention, if we really ramped up wind and solar TexasBushwhacker Sep 2015 #68
Gosh. Imagine what would happen if this was how it was around the whole country? Octafish Sep 2015 #48
I don't see any Hillary logos in this thread. Is she against wind power? nm rhett o rick Sep 2015 #50
you better believe AnAzulTexas Sep 2015 #51
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #53
I have Green Mountain Energy.. FloriTexan Sep 2015 #59
I have Green Mountain Energy here in East Texas. jamesatemple Sep 2015 #63
The Sun ................... turbinetree Sep 2015 #61
Provides ALL the energy life needs ReactFlux Sep 2015 #67
It sure does.................................. turbinetree Sep 2015 #70
'The Sun' ColesCountyDem Sep 2015 #71
Coooooooooooooooooool.......................................... turbinetree Sep 2015 #72
Thank you! ColesCountyDem Sep 2015 #73
------------Your Welcome............................. turbinetree Sep 2015 #74
cool Liberal_in_LA Sep 2015 #69
whoa, they have renewable power in Texas??? Takket Sep 2015 #75
Wind farms having to pay for producing electricity is a good thing for renewables? (nt) Recursion Sep 2015 #76
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