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34. Paychecks are direct deposited

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Wed Sep 23, 2015, 03:31 AM

Sep 2015

and you are notified of rate changes before you accept the ride.

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Don't Buy The Hype — Airbnb And Uber Are Terrible For The Economy [View all] KamaAina Sep 2015 OP

"Uber might already be reducing DUIs" Nye Bevan Sep 2015 #1

I like uber. Great company. yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #6

Uber exploits desperate workers philosslayer Sep 2015 #64

So do cab companies Recursion Sep 2015 #66

Fascinating! Tell me how all of this works WhaTHellsgoingonhere Sep 2015 #140

hahahahahaha MFrohike Sep 2015 #174

Want to talk about what the medallion owners have done to DC city politics? (nt) Recursion Sep 2015 #175

Sure MFrohike Sep 2015 #176

Well then we agree that both are bad Recursion Sep 2015 #177

That'd be a good step MFrohike Sep 2015 #178

Like a mileage pro-rate or something? Recursion Sep 2015 #179

Yes and I have no idea MFrohike Sep 2015 #183

That's about the only good thing about Uber. Initech Sep 2015 #25

Uber boober. Time to roll or drunk or snatch a purse... Any reports on this kind of crap by their lonestarnot Sep 2015 #27

yes. mopinko Sep 2015 #166

Paychecks are direct deposited Egnever Sep 2015 #34

I got charged $200 after accepting what should have been a $45 ride. Initech Sep 2015 #51

Sounds like a glitch Egnever Sep 2015 #118

Screw cabs. I'm tired of rides being refused and arbitrary rates Recursion Sep 2015 #57

Yeah kind of one of those pick your poison kind of things. Initech Sep 2015 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Sep 2015 #95

Neither do cab companies Recursion Sep 2015 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Sep 2015 #98

In South Korea they have companies (other than Uber) where you can call davidpdx Sep 2015 #40

India has that. Recursion Sep 2015 #59

That's pretty sweet. Initech Sep 2015 #93

It is a great resource for that treestar Sep 2015 #69

"modest" hotel tax? unblock Sep 2015 #2

Uber pays taxes and is subject to whatever regulation Egnever Sep 2015 #3

The article is from The Guardian KamaAina Sep 2015 #8

Doesn't mean they are immune to it Egnever Sep 2015 #15

No. they do not. alarimer Sep 2015 #12

How do you figure that? Egnever Sep 2015 #14

When companies define workers as contractors csziggy Sep 2015 #23

Well Egnever Sep 2015 #30

You know cab companies do that too, right? (nt) Recursion Sep 2015 #52

Yes, and newspapers do it to their delivery people csziggy Sep 2015 #101

So how is Uber the problem here? (nt) Recursion Sep 2015 #113

You're hilarious! Please explain!! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Sep 2015 #142

Cab drivers are 1099s, not W2s Recursion Sep 2015 #143

I'll be damned, you know one thing! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Sep 2015 #146

Why are you astroturfing for millionaire medallion owners? Recursion Sep 2015 #148

Workers' Comp comes to mind. n/t Iris Sep 2015 #24

Yup Egnever Sep 2015 #33

OK, while I'm largely pro-Uber I definitely agree on that Recursion Sep 2015 #68

Does Uber supply car insurance for its drivers? dflprincess Sep 2015 #26

The driver has to cary their own insurance Egnever Sep 2015 #35

From pick up to drop off, yes Recursion Sep 2015 #61

Almost every taxi company 1099's their drivers as contractors Lee-Lee Sep 2015 #39

Name me a taxi company in the US that has W2 drivers Recursion Sep 2015 #62

Uber is indeed subject to regulation gratuitous Sep 2015 #13

How do we know their tires are any good, or the steering wheel steers? lonestarnot Sep 2015 #28

The cars are inspected Egnever Sep 2015 #32

Who inspects them? lonestarnot Sep 2015 #130

The same mechanics who inspect cabs Recursion Sep 2015 #133

Not in TX, AZ and I see cabbies around here that don't appear to have passed any kind of rigorous lonestarnot Sep 2015 #135

Because it has an inspection sticker? Recursion Sep 2015 #63

LOL a sticker. ROFLMAO. lonestarnot Sep 2015 #131

Do you have an issue with your state's vehicle inspection regime? (nt) Recursion Sep 2015 #132

I'm not so sure. My ass gets chapped when I take the car to get emission tested and give them money lonestarnot Sep 2015 #134

So how are cabs any better than Uber as far as that goes? Recursion Sep 2015 #136

I honestly do not know. lonestarnot Sep 2015 #167

No Recursion Sep 2015 #168

Well then they need to create one. lonestarnot Sep 2015 #169

I'm all for it. They should join with Uber drivers. I bet the Teamsters would take them (nt) Recursion Sep 2015 #170

I bet they would too! lonestarnot Sep 2015 #173

they are the equivalent of day laborers hanging around outside Home Depot nt msongs Sep 2015 #4

I couldn't care less about voluntary exchanges. TampaAnimusVortex Sep 2015 #5

AirBnB in particular has had negative effects besides taxation KamaAina Sep 2015 #7

Maybe the tax laws should be changed. lunatica Sep 2015 #9

I hear ya! KamaAina Sep 2015 #10

So? I'm not seeing a problem here. TampaAnimusVortex Sep 2015 #18

The homes are zoned residential. KamaAina Sep 2015 #19

Then wouldn't it already be against the law? Adrahil Sep 2015 #42

They are breaking the law. Tax free, regulation free. Undercutting businesses who HAVE to: KittyWampus Sep 2015 #76

So you want to outlaw all contract work... TampaAnimusVortex Sep 2015 #78

If you hire a gardener and they hit your gas line and your house blows up... KittyWampus Sep 2015 #81

So was correct - you want to outlaw contract work. TampaAnimusVortex Sep 2015 #82

Reading through this thread, that seems to be one issue. Contractors or self employed uppityperson Sep 2015 #105

If they are breaking the law, I'd expect the law to do something about it. Adrahil Sep 2015 #104

I agree - Just ignore stupid laws TampaAnimusVortex Sep 2015 #119

As I happily live in a city without zoning, kentauros Sep 2015 #109

SF has thousands upon thousands of designated live/work units KamaAina Sep 2015 #111

Okay, I understand stuff like that. kentauros Sep 2015 #112

Get a mailbox for the business? KamaAina Sep 2015 #114

And that's true as to what cities care about. kentauros Sep 2015 #115

You sound like a Libertarian philosslayer Sep 2015 #70

Name calling? TampaAnimusVortex Sep 2015 #77

Yeah, except living and let living isn't happening. nichomachus Sep 2015 #128

Uber violates legal protections for workers mythology Sep 2015 #53

Care all you want... TampaAnimusVortex Sep 2015 #74

No different from existing cab companies. You understand that, right? nt stevenleser Sep 2015 #90

You COULDN'T care less... tenderfoot Sep 2015 #67

Lol! :) TampaAnimusVortex Sep 2015 #75

LOL! tenderfoot Sep 2015 #94

I think you mean "couldn't care less". Nt Logical Sep 2015 #84

They're great if you like no regulation alarimer Sep 2015 #11

Like taxis are great... GummyBearz Sep 2015 #17

I have never had that happen Skittles Sep 2015 #36

I've had it happen numerous times GummyBearz Sep 2015 #37

I sure have. Adrahil Sep 2015 #43

I have. Our local Yellow Cab drivers are total sleazeballs. Lyric Sep 2015 #46

you have a city problem Skittles Sep 2015 #125

City politicians are usually beholden to medallion owners Recursion Sep 2015 #137

I literally do not believe you Recursion Sep 2015 #55

IMHO "No tax is a good tax". nt clarice Sep 2015 #16

Oh really? philosslayer Sep 2015 #71

Thanks for posting Omaha Steve Sep 2015 #20

You will no doubt be pleased to hear that cab drivers are organizing KamaAina Sep 2015 #21

Hopefully they organize to be better.... Adrahil Sep 2015 #44

+1000000000 nt Lyric Sep 2015 #47

You will be sad to learn no cab driver in the US has a collective bargaining agreement Recursion Sep 2015 #54

I like to know the cost of a ride at least by the time I end it. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2015 #22

Nice scam, guys! KamaAina Sep 2015 #29

You get an estimate before you accept the ride Egnever Sep 2015 #31

I get an estimate when I enter the destination Recursion Sep 2015 #65

Uber is crap. I'm torn on Air BnB Lee-Lee Sep 2015 #38

your friend could have rented a room on a longer term basis and been legal and not screwed over KittyWampus Sep 2015 #79

Long term rental pays less and generally Lee-Lee Sep 2015 #83

Most locals have limits on how many times you can rent a room KittyWampus Sep 2015 #88

In his area it's perfectly legal and called a "honestay" Lee-Lee Sep 2015 #99

They said it was legal, and they could've made less money by not renting at all. Hardly a compelling uppityperson Sep 2015 #107

I have used AirBnB here in Korea a few times davidpdx Sep 2015 #41

Interesting thought treestar Sep 2015 #72

It's all about driving while uninsured..... HickFromTheTick Sep 2015 #45

Just completely wrong Egnever Sep 2015 #154

What gets me about these sharing businesses... randome Sep 2015 #48

The reality is.... Adrahil Sep 2015 #49

It is not "competition", they are not playing on the same field. Darb Sep 2015 #73

Just an excuse.... Adrahil Sep 2015 #103

I've yet to hear a way medallions are better for drivers Recursion Sep 2015 #56

Well, they SHOULD be unionized. But adding more exploited workers to the pool is not the answer. randome Sep 2015 #58

They have to be employees first Recursion Sep 2015 #60

If taxis and hotels were better options, then we wouldn't be having this discussion FLPanhandle Sep 2015 #50

When they get regulated like the old business models, then we will see Darb Sep 2015 #80

There is virtually no difference between Cab companies and Uber. Hotels and airbnb is a different stevenleser Sep 2015 #91

Apples and oranges steven. Darb Sep 2015 #121

The owner of the property cleans the airb&b rooms. stevenleser Sep 2015 #123

Uber pays the same taxes as a fleet car service, not as taxis Recursion Sep 2015 #138

Where in the taxi regulations does it state they use POS cars and surly drivers FLPanhandle Sep 2015 #124

I love airbnb. Best trips ever and cheaper. Nt Logical Sep 2015 #85

You you aren't actually a Progressive then. You are a Libertarian. Good to know. KittyWampus Sep 2015 #89

LOL, you are funny..... Logical Sep 2015 #96

Rather than going on a trip and spending money there, staying home is better for local uppityperson Sep 2015 #108

the choice isn't between not going on a trip or staying at a libertarian, anti-government airB&B KittyWampus Sep 2015 #126

True, that was not my choice. My choice was stay at an Airbnb and spend money locally or not go. uppityperson Sep 2015 #129

Air BNB is nothing new Travis_0004 Sep 2015 #127

Article is plant by hotel lobbying group rafeh1 Sep 2015 #86

Sharing is awesome - TBF Sep 2015 #87

yeah especially when employees "share" the costs ibegurpard Sep 2015 #160

As a socialist I see it all the time TBF Sep 2015 #165

We're AirBnB hosts and have been for six years. GoneOffShore Sep 2015 #100

I used Airbnb and supported the economy where I visited by buying food, museum fees, etc uppityperson Sep 2015 #102

As noted above, 1939 Sep 2015 #110

Wait until we get self-driving cars LittleBlue Sep 2015 #106

Few big employers left; none coming Cayenne Sep 2015 #116

Not true in Uber's home of San Francisco KamaAina Sep 2015 #117

How many does Twitter actually employ? Cayenne Sep 2015 #120

And all the average people are moving out. Darb Sep 2015 #122

Uber users are ignorant, especially liberal Uber users WhaTHellsgoingonhere Sep 2015 #139

LOL you think cab drivers pass criminal background checks Recursion Sep 2015 #144

Obviously, none of this was covered during your training WhaTHellsgoingonhere Sep 2015 #145

It's not "160,000 drivers" Recursion Sep 2015 #149

Yes, that's how CLASS ACTION lawsuits work WhaTHellsgoingonhere Sep 2015 #150

But not for all 160,000 Recursion Sep 2015 #151

They taught you something at Uber University WhaTHellsgoingonhere Sep 2015 #152

Does it make you feel better to pretend people who disagree with you have to be paid to do so? Recursion Sep 2015 #153

Your youth and naivety is glaring... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Sep 2015 #155

Mayor's $65 million giveaway to $50 billion company WhaTHellsgoingonhere Sep 2015 #156

this one is all about private-sector solutions for everything ibegurpard Sep 2015 #161

All this voluntary action has to stop! TampaAnimusVortex Sep 2015 #158

oh you like picking up the cost of the business? ibegurpard Sep 2015 #162

No, I'm agreeing with you. TampaAnimusVortex Sep 2015 #163

How does the cab industry work and how does Uber solve it? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Sep 2015 #141

I'm hardly promoting it. KamaAina Sep 2015 #157

Now we need an app to find other services that are overpriced on the commercial side. Sunlei Sep 2015 #147

People are crazy to support or "work for" a company like this. ibegurpard Sep 2015 #159

The selfish attitudes on this thread illustrate why union membership has dwindled. U4ikLefty Sep 2015 #164

100 percent in agreement. no empathy no sense no care no brain. nt JanMichael Sep 2015 #182

Uber promises $25/hr delivers under $3 WhaTHellsgoingonhere Sep 2015 #171

It's worse than it sounds. KamaAina Sep 2015 #172

ad bad as Taxis can be DonCoquixote Sep 2015 #180

Uber is just one more below minimum wage job with no benefits nm Teamster Jeff Sep 2015 #181