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Ghost in the Machine

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11. I have called them twice since 2010. The first time was when my house was broken into and some
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:01 AM
Sep 2015

things were stolen, like my TV, a laptop, DVD player and my son's XBOX360, which I had the receipts for with the serial numbers on them. I figured at least that would help if they showed up at a pawn shop somewhere.

The 2nd time was when I had a whacked out meth-head threatening to burn my house down while my kids and I were sleeping. I was told that they couldn't do anything about threats unless the person tried to carry it out. I asked them "what about making terroristic threats?" They still said they couldn't do anything because it was verbal threats, and I didn't have anything to prove that the threats were made.

The thing is, I live way out in the sticks, about 15 miles from town. On any given night we have a total of THREE County Officers on patrol, along with ONE City Officer for inside the city limits, and he helps back up the County Officers if they aren't too far out of the city limits. Our county is about 35 miles long, South to North, and 7 to 8 miles wide, East to West. The officers told me that even if I called, it could take them 45 minutes or longer to respond because they might be on another call somewhere and be tied up. They said that I was basically on my own and to post my property with "Private Property - NO TRESPASSING" signs, and IF I caught someone in my yard in the middle of the night with a gas can to just shoot them on sight, then call them and they would come get the body out of my yard and I would be protected under the "Castle Doctrine" laws.

I went to see the Judge the next day, and she agreed with what the officer said. Even went so far as to put "By Order Of The Xxxxx County Sheriffs Department and Judge Xxxx Xxxxxxx" on my "NO TRESPASSING" signs! They basically gave me a license to kill! Fortunately, I never had to act on it, and would hate to have to do so, but if YOU put ME in the situation where I have to choose between ending your existence, or losing my life and the lives of my kids, guess who's going to lose?? I like to think, in my own mind, that I would NOT shoot to kill, though. I'd rather shoot you in the arm or leg, just enough to stop the threat of you burning my house down, and would NEVER shoot someone in the back if they dropped the gas can and started running away. Too many people already think that ALL gun owners are just killers waiting for a chance to kill anyways. I wouldn't want to reinforce their stereotype. Justice would be better served by adding insult to injury by letting someone spend a little time in the jail wing of a hospital, then going into a prison cell for a while on top of that. The best case scenario would be not even having to fire a weapon, though. Hopefully they would be smart enough to drop the gas can, then drop to the ground and stay put until the cops *did* arrive. The unfortunate side of that is that "tweakers" aren't that smart to begin with, but one could hope, anyways...

With all of the shootings/mass killings in recent years, I have begun to question gun ownership at times, but where I live it is really a basic necessity to have one, if for nothing else than to hunt with and help keep meat in the freezer/food on the table. It's a big help when you are on a fixed income.

Peace,

Ghost

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I have called the cops twice in the last year Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2015 #1
I've called the cops about a dog in a car on a hot day because I couldn't locate the owner tblue37 Sep 2015 #39
I call the cops. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #2
Systems are corrupt. Smarmie Doofus Sep 2015 #31
I have called/would call the cops for serious crimes rollin74 Sep 2015 #3
I'm surprised at my own trepidation thinking about this tblue Sep 2015 #4
Just for crimes that could kill or injure some one gopiscrap Sep 2015 #5
Someone has to collect the evidence. They are the only ones in that business. lonestarnot Sep 2015 #6
Why don't you put it to the test? RandySF Sep 2015 #7
I have and will in the future should the situation arise DrDan Sep 2015 #8
Depends on the situation but generally no, don't deal with cops on or off duty at all YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #9
No - they only make the situation worse FreakinDJ Sep 2015 #10
I have called them twice since 2010. The first time was when my house was broken into and some Ghost in the Machine Sep 2015 #11
I did once. . . . BigDemVoter Sep 2015 #12
Yes, only because there is safeinOhio Sep 2015 #13
I have never called the cops, SheilaT Sep 2015 #14
As a dog lover I find your post distasteful at best damnedifIknow Sep 2015 #55
as the owner of three hfojvt Sep 2015 #79
I can understand aggravation damnedifIknow Sep 2015 #81
nobody is taking it to an extreme hfojvt Sep 2015 #92
Call me over protective then damnedifIknow Sep 2015 #112
The poison would be for the neighbors, right? truebluegreen Sep 2015 #62
I'm fortunate to be completely surrounded by neighbors with dogs worse than mine. hunter Sep 2015 #64
Call the police and tell them what is going on. They no doubt jwirr Sep 2015 #65
I hate dogs too Facility Inspector Sep 2015 #66
Maybe a pill will help damnedifIknow Sep 2015 #67
I'm suspicious of people who don't like dogs, Glassunion Sep 2015 #72
I'm suspicious of people Facility Inspector Sep 2015 #73
Why? Glassunion Sep 2015 #74
It is the rare person that I've run into in life that doesn't like other animals of any kind. Rex Sep 2015 #90
How did you jump from dogs Facility Inspector Sep 2015 #95
sarcasm Facility Inspector Sep 2015 #93
I kind of wondered. Rex Sep 2015 #100
That's just weird.... TipTok Sep 2015 #77
It is rare and strange to find a person that hates animals. Rex Sep 2015 #89
Dogs know. pecwae Sep 2015 #122
. Rex Sep 2015 #102
That is sad you hate dogs, because of neighbors. Rex Sep 2015 #91
It's not just the barking dogs in the neigborhood that is turning SheilaT Sep 2015 #104
I've been there, had the rudest neighbors in the world that let their 3 dogs bark all night long. Rex Sep 2015 #107
Of course I call them. romanic Sep 2015 #15
IDK. It's nice when cops can prevent crime but that isn't really their job Recursion Sep 2015 #18
How silly to act on the assumption all cops are bad. Vinca Sep 2015 #16
There is no such thing as a "good cop". MohRokTah Sep 2015 #30
Thanks - I used to be one. Vinca Sep 2015 #38
How many times did you uphold the blue code? MohRokTah Sep 2015 #47
Wow - it sucks to be a person who can't trust. Vinca Sep 2015 #85
And I do not believe you. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #86
I feel sorry for you. Vinca Sep 2015 #96
Feel sorry for the 872 Americans killed by cops so far this year. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #113
You have managed to irk me which is hard to do. Vinca Sep 2015 #115
The day I need a cop is the day I need a hole in my head. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #116
I think you've already got one. Vinca Sep 2015 #117
I think you're jet pissed because I won't buy not the myth of the good cop. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #118
I never fail to be amazed by your posts. cwydro Sep 2015 #94
Answers MohRokTah Sep 2015 #98
So if you see a child kidnapped or a person assaulted on the street - cwydro Sep 2015 #99
Yes. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #106
Wow, Moh. Good to know you don't care if a child is kidnapped. cwydro Sep 2015 #110
I'm not calling cops and take a risk of mebeing killed. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #111
You are wrong hack89 Sep 2015 #105
Ther is no such thing as a good cop. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #108
In your black and white cartoon world perhaps. hack89 Sep 2015 #109
Yes, in the real world. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #114
I have on a drunk guy throwing bottles Recursion Sep 2015 #17
It would take a very serious crime for me to call damnedifIknow Sep 2015 #19
Yes, I trust the police, and know quite a few police officers. Travis_0004 Sep 2015 #20
mostly no cops Cobalt Violet Sep 2015 #21
Never. nt bemildred Sep 2015 #22
We handle security issues in house Facility Inspector Sep 2015 #23
Certainly One_Life_To_Give Sep 2015 #24
Yes. No problem. pintobean Sep 2015 #25
Called them this week liberal N proud Sep 2015 #26
I have several times in the past. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #27
I had a theft of a boombox out of my car. Snobblevitch Sep 2015 #121
Nope, no calling the cops. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #28
Yep TeddyR Sep 2015 #34
There is no such thing as a "good cop". MohRokTah Sep 2015 #35
You're not serious, right? nolabear Sep 2015 #68
I am completely serious MohRokTah Sep 2015 #70
What if your car was stolen? treestar Sep 2015 #41
I'd fear the cops too much to call them. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #44
so if your car is stolen you just take the loss? treestar Sep 2015 #46
It beats being shot to death by a cop. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #48
over doing it here treestar Sep 2015 #49
In some cities the cops steal cars... hunter Sep 2015 #61
Only in a life or death situation 6chars Sep 2015 #29
Would not hesitate to call the police if necessary. Any justhanginon Sep 2015 #32
I would consider other solutions before calling the cops, if possible. -nt CrispyQ Sep 2015 #33
it's mostly a waste of time for any event needing imediant intervention ileus Sep 2015 #36
Called 911 for help with out of control mental health patient. KentuckyWoman Sep 2015 #37
I've never called the cops treestar Sep 2015 #40
Just once OriginalGeek Sep 2015 #42
It's like the modern freak out about pedophiles on every corner... TipTok Sep 2015 #43
I seriousy doubt that. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #45
That's not really a repudiation... TipTok Sep 2015 #54
I refuse to take the chance as there is no such thing as a good cop. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #56
K... TipTok Sep 2015 #58
You ARE serious! Just curious, what made you feel this way? nolabear Sep 2015 #69
Cops get away with murder every day. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #88
I used to call them for disturbances, but in light of current developments closeupready Sep 2015 #50
Only under truly dire circumstances, frankly. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2015 #51
They'll just tell me to fill out a form on their website, or in person at the police station... hunter Sep 2015 #52
As a clean-cut, white male, police reactions have always been fair towards me LanternWaste Sep 2015 #53
For what? Iggo Sep 2015 #57
Yes. I used to live in a high crime neighborhood and called them about once a month. Throd Sep 2015 #59
Had noisy neighbors who would throw loud parties Jake Stern Sep 2015 #60
In my own community I would if the problem is serious. jwirr Sep 2015 #63
I've called them in times of trouble. And I've had bad experiences at times too. nolabear Sep 2015 #71
I've called the cops a couple of times when I've heard screaming. Blue_In_AK Sep 2015 #75
As opposed to what? Maedhros Sep 2015 #76
Called em last week... TipTok Sep 2015 #78
About a year ago, some of those "terrible cops" that some people talk about saved hamsterjill Sep 2015 #80
I've dialed 911 three times in my life.. frylock Sep 2015 #82
Of course. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #83
Yes I have and yes I would. 840high Sep 2015 #84
That's not really just a yes or no question. I would call the cops in the town I live in. Rex Sep 2015 #87
To see a crime and do nothing sarisataka Sep 2015 #97
Yes, I would. B Calm Sep 2015 #101
Without hesitation. hack89 Sep 2015 #103
Yes if need be, but all I really need to do is go next door, there are good and bad in every facet AuntPatsy Sep 2015 #119
Recently an old neighbor was acting threatening and erratically so some people discussed what to do bettyellen Sep 2015 #120
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