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In reply to the discussion: The Pope's comments on family and marriage seem very much open to interpretation-WRONG [View all]PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)3. On second thought, he probably also meant birth control and abortion.
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The Pope's comments on family and marriage seem very much open to interpretation-WRONG [View all]
Stinky The Clown
Sep 2015
OP
The family is threatened but you claim this is neutral? Do you know what the World Meeting of
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2015
#1
There's no evidence that he views anything but families headed by the "complemenatary sexes" as...
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2015
#66
Christians, in general, base their life on a Jesus/God of their Bible, through a selective reading..
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2015
#75
There are other morally objectional things Jesus says or does, but what I'm really puzzled by...
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2015
#89
How can any teo people wishing to maaDivorce and child abuse and neglect are greater threatd surely.
JDPriestly
Sep 2015
#8
And yet he also rants against marriage equality endlessly, not about divorce nor cohabitation
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2015
#11
That doesn't really make it better, and I'm glad that mayor is there to challenge the Pope...
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2015
#15
No its not threatened, and those "causes" are people's choices, do you want to remove said choices?
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2015
#12
The point being that if they can improve or don't improve family relationships is no one's business.
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2015
#22
No they didn't, there was no Catholic Church at that time, but again, that's irrelevent...
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2015
#42
Sure they have the right to free speech, but they do not have the right to impose their...
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2015
#49
So how do you condone the teachings in places that are not America and rich?
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2015
#53
Oh, stop. That has zero impact on them, so it doesn't matter that Africans are dying!!
PeaceNikki
Sep 2015
#61
It always cracks me up when people use this as a response to archaic misogynistic doctrine
PeaceNikki
Sep 2015
#59
Only because their Church is politically weak enough here to not be able to restrict...
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2015
#68
Its called "dog whistle politics", similar to Reagan talking about "Cadillac driving welfare queens"
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2015
#6
Where is the evidence that this Pope has evolved on this issue? Has he pulled a George Wallace...
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2015
#44
That's an assertion without fact, do you have evidence that he's far less judgemental? n/t
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2015
#60
Good grief. "Assertion without fact." We are talking about religion, religious beliefs,
pnwmom
Sep 2015
#63
His out of context quote about celibate, homosexual priests is NOT relevent...
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2015
#64
Not really, in fact, the Catechism, for all its bigoted language, recognizes that being...
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2015
#67
I'd also like to point out that I first offered an information heavy response which you ignored
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2015
#58
I think, as heterosexuals, it's all too easy for us to minimize the problematic aspects
nomorenomore08
Sep 2015
#86
Is that supposed to mean something, did the Vatican state that they demoted him because of...
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2015
#50
That story is a year old and not even the truth. I challenge you to offer proof that that man was
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2015
#54
Agreed, you weren't vilifying me. In fact, I'm sorry that I implied you were.
Stinky The Clown
Sep 2015
#26
His words as Cardinal were very clear and very ugly. To balance that requires very clear support.
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2015
#55
If the Pope actually wants to dial back on the culture war stuff that is good.
bklyncowgirl
Sep 2015
#21
Your quote is from before he was Pope. How do you know his views haven't evolved
pnwmom
Sep 2015
#29
I could post the entire 'who am I to judge' speech again. It's not pro gay, it's a rant against 'the
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2015
#56
Also, Catholic.com is a lay-run, RW site. Try NCRonline.org for a different point of view.
pnwmom
Sep 2015
#33
Here's the pope's own media organisation, quoting him after he became pope:
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2015
#74
He's worried that the "culture of the temporary" has led many people to give up on marriage
pnwmom
Sep 2015
#76
Pope warns same-sex marriage 'threatens the family' and 'disfigures God's plan for creation'
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2015
#79
So these traditions of the slow ship are like the 'heritage' of the Confederate Flag?
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2015
#81
The kind of post you're responding to is why I'm slowly weaning myself off message boards.
AngryOldDem
Sep 2015
#72
Some reading on the World Meeting of Families mentioned by Francis in the OP:
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2015
#57