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dreamnightwind

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38. Personally I've always found the golden rule to be terribly flawed
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:20 AM
Sep 2015

Personally I've always found the golden rule to be terribly flawed, and a cause of many problems. I get that it's about compassion...

But it's far better to ascertain what the other person wants, not what we would want. We're treating others the way we would want to be treated, rather than checking in to see how they want to be treated. Different people, different wants. It generalizes, and can be seen as a source of many problems between different peoples.

Can I sum that up for a bumper sticker? Not sure. Maybe someone else can. I've seriously seen this as a huge foundational problem for a long time now, we need The Golden Rule II, or better yet a different name that is more organic.

I'd suggest Do Unto Others As They Want, but I guess the problem there is they don't necessarily want something they should have. That's also a problem with the original, though, doing for them what we would want done to us, we don't always want done to us what should be dones to us. So maybe this revision works a little better than the old one, though I don't think it's the perfect phrasing by any means.

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Bringing it ALL down to a simple concept: [View all] Stinky The Clown Sep 2015 OP
Thank you Father Stinky Renew Deal Sep 2015 #1
If only the pope would do that too instead of condemning women and the LGBTQ community... (nt) LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #2
Unfortunately, we humans live in a dichotomous world. Stinky The Clown Sep 2015 #3
Which makes it alright? Skidmore Sep 2015 #5
Shame on you. That's not what I said, my meaning was clear, and you know what it was Stinky The Clown Sep 2015 #6
+1 Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #11
^^^^^^^yes^^^^^^ restorefreedom Sep 2015 #13
Of the three, I think the humility is the biggest one. eggplant Sep 2015 #16
"Then fight for more change" hamsterjill Sep 2015 #20
Perfect! He's not, the church surely isn't, but progress is being made. nt babylonsister Sep 2015 #33
Well said!!! hamsterjill Sep 2015 #18
Yes! hueymahl Sep 2015 #28
I missed the part where this Pope ("Who am I to judge?") condemned anyone. n.t pnwmom Sep 2015 #36
Themed in all faiths leftofcool Sep 2015 #4
Yes, some things are universal. I am sure Islam has a similar saying Stinky The Clown Sep 2015 #7
indeed. restorefreedom Sep 2015 #14
You may find this of interest . . . Journeyman Sep 2015 #35
Themed in all faiths AlbertCat Sep 2015 #9
Not quite in all faiths. zeemike Sep 2015 #17
They are a faith too...and they have their gods and goddesses too. AlbertCat Sep 2015 #29
Nor does it exclude them. zeemike Sep 2015 #31
Nor does it exclude them. AlbertCat Sep 2015 #32
IWW - only religion worth even a flying shit - "An injury to one is an injury to all" n/t jtuck004 Sep 2015 #27
You don't need religion for that. alarimer Sep 2015 #8
The same principle exists in hifiguy Sep 2015 #30
Got that in kindergarten. Iggo Sep 2015 #10
Yes, we all got that in kindergarten... However, it did take a pope to re-explain it to some of the Glassunion Sep 2015 #26
Thank You! libodem Sep 2015 #12
Eh, it doesn't work for all cases. malthaussen Sep 2015 #15
Well, you're framing it wrong. Orrex Sep 2015 #19
I've lately gotten a lot of mileage out of a different formulation Orrex Sep 2015 #21
I'm thinking. Thank you. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #23
Just to clarify, I *definitely* didn't come up with the phrase Orrex Sep 2015 #24
The Pope is the first one who needs to get that message. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #22
I prefer the other version thesquanderer Sep 2015 #25
Are you an over-thinker? babylonsister Sep 2015 #34
I like Kurt Vonnegut's version Fairgo Sep 2015 #37
Personally I've always found the golden rule to be terribly flawed dreamnightwind Sep 2015 #38
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