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jeff47

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17. No, we force them to be robots.

Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:42 AM

Sep 2015

Lots of "OMG CRIME IS EVERYWHERE PROTECT MY BABY!!!!" parents pushed through zero-tolerance policies. Zero-tolerance means zero judgement calls. School officials have no choice but to act like robots.

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High school teen who defended a blind classmate who was being beaten by a bully is SUSPENDED [View all] Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 OP

Our Grandson had a similiar issue. Wellstone ruled Sep 2015 #1

"Zero tolerance" BS Recursion Sep 2015 #2

Exactly What I Was Thinking! ProfessorGAC Sep 2015 #11

Zero tolerance policies should be unconstitutional. Initech Sep 2015 #78

Zero Tolerance. Brought to you by the WOD. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #92

I think this would fall under 'crime of passion' Are_grits_groceries Sep 2015 #3

Zero Tolerance Idiocy sharp_stick Sep 2015 #4

ZT is more like 30-40 years old and we've been seeing the consequences for 15-20 Pacifist Patriot Sep 2015 #40

it's legal and morally right marym625 Sep 2015 #5

His parents have just hit the lottery. Lawsuit city. closeupready Sep 2015 #6

No, they really haven't. jeff47 Sep 2015 #15

zero-tolerance means school is liable for the blind kid getting beaten. KittyWampus Sep 2015 #22

Only if they don't enforce the policy on the bully. jeff47 Sep 2015 #23

I wonder if the bully learned his lesson yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #53

I expect he'll be like most bullies, and blame the victim for the bully's actions. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #61

Unfortunately you are right sarisataka Sep 2015 #27

Oh yes they do - they'll find something to sue on, and win. closeupready Sep 2015 #31

:eyes: jeff47 Sep 2015 #41

Okay. You aren't here to have a discussion. Got it. closeupready Sep 2015 #47

Because claiming any "my feelings got hurt" lawsuit wins in CA jeff47 Sep 2015 #63

California law does not require physical symptoms to be present in either an Glassunion Sep 2015 #74

Enablers. lpbk2713 Sep 2015 #7

No, we force them to be robots. jeff47 Sep 2015 #17

+1,000,000 yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #97

don't know how well these things work but OriginalGeek Sep 2015 #8

I updated my OP to include your post. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #10

Happy to help OriginalGeek Sep 2015 #16

Zero tolerance idiocy strikes once again romanic Sep 2015 #9

"treating the ableist bully like a victim" Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #12

and the bully was promptly released to his parents. I don't see anywhere where it said that niyad Sep 2015 #43

Ten bucks says this bully grows up to be a police officer... n/t backscatter712 Sep 2015 #58

quite likely niyad Sep 2015 #62

No suspension mentioned could just be the reporting. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #100

you make excellent points. niyad Sep 2015 #115

I don't think the school is right. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2015 #13

I did not read anywhere that the attacker was suspended. He was arrested and then released. LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #14

Well, in third grade I got into a fight with another kid who was bullying the class "retard" malthaussen Sep 2015 #18

Won't anyone think of the children!!!?!?!!1!!! Glassunion Sep 2015 #19

Had a similar situation 4Q2u2 Sep 2015 #20

They Don't Get To Have An Opinion On Your Answer ProfessorGAC Sep 2015 #24

Can never go wrong Fishing your Child 4Q2u2 Sep 2015 #25

I Get Ya! ProfessorGAC Sep 2015 #35

Now Now 4Q2u2 Sep 2015 #85

Sorry ProfessorGAC Sep 2015 #99

I had a similar situation with a better outcome. Pacifist Patriot Sep 2015 #46

Both boys were suspended 4Q2u2 Sep 2015 #83

The Administrators should be held accountable for allowing blind kid to get beaten. KittyWampus Sep 2015 #21

EVERY adult, teacher, janitor, secretary who saw it yet didn't intervene is culpable HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #39

And that is why cloudbase Sep 2015 #104

One size fits all also eliminates the need to make judgements HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #105

My youngest son is visually impaired--legally blind--the one who is now a grad student mnhtnbb Sep 2015 #26

THEATRE KID HERE, now mother of THEATRE major. elehhhhna Sep 2015 #114

Outrageous. SoapBox Sep 2015 #28

Wow damnedifIknow Sep 2015 #29

No good deed goes unpunished. magical thyme Sep 2015 #30

I'm having that engraved on my urn. Pacifist Patriot Sep 2015 #48

That kid can play on my team ANY DAY !!!! nt clarice Sep 2015 #32

So did the bully get suspended for beating on a blind kid? Rex Sep 2015 #33

I'm torn here. cwydro Sep 2015 #34

I bet this is not the first time this has happened dbackjon Sep 2015 #44

I agree. cwydro Sep 2015 #55

Agreed - but with some people talking does nothing dbackjon Sep 2015 #56

I was bullied as a child. cwydro Sep 2015 #66

Possible he has been bullied himself dbackjon Sep 2015 #69

That's my thought also. cwydro Sep 2015 #71

Shoving him to the side would be a form of violence; glad the bully got to feel the pain he was glowing Sep 2015 #45

Indeed, that is my take also. uppityperson Sep 2015 #90

It all makes me so sad. cwydro Sep 2015 #91

Unfair zero-tolerance crap. Back when I was a kid... MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #36

Hmm, will he get a White House invite? Microsoft swag? riderinthestorm Sep 2015 #37

Zero tolerance TNNurse Sep 2015 #38

Unfortunately, given the quality of the people they hire, it's not a bad assessment Demeter Sep 2015 #54

I don't see where the bully who was beating up on the visually disabled kid was suspended. niyad Sep 2015 #42

IF not, then the school is showing favoritism under a zero tolerance rule. Rex Sep 2015 #49

Many School Districts while having anti-bullying policies, do not enforce them and often punish Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #50

Zero tolerance garbage. backscatter712 Sep 2015 #51

Some shitheads just need a savage beating. Nothing else gets through to them. backscatter712 Sep 2015 #52

+1000000000000 dbackjon Sep 2015 #57

I agree. Absolutely! n/t radicalliberal Sep 2015 #64

+100000000000000000000000 Initech Sep 2015 #79

More zero tolerance lunacy LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #59

If I were the principal of that school, I would have given Cody a medal. radicalliberal Sep 2015 #60

That'll teach him not to intervene on behalf of a blind kid being bullied. Orrex Sep 2015 #65

defense is NOT the same as counter-attack hfojvt Sep 2015 #67

What nonsense, so YOU would let a blind kid get beat up to stay out of trouble. Rex Sep 2015 #76

actually I have broken up a fight hfojvt Sep 2015 #101

Not as much of a game as hockey. Events like these are important in people's lives. Red Mountain Sep 2015 #111

Hmmm.... Disinterested Party Sep 2015 #82

Your logic does not follow... Glassunion Sep 2015 #88

if you take a swing at me hfojvt Sep 2015 #103

And we wonder why this happens later in life: HughBeaumont Sep 2015 #68

I hope there's a gofundme Prism Sep 2015 #70

If a student had to step in to stop a public assault on a disabled child LittleBlue Sep 2015 #72

Self-defense HAS to be part of any any-bullying strategy bluestateguy Sep 2015 #73

Wouldn't zero tolerance rules just lead to people standing by not intervening when a crime occurs? abelenkpe Sep 2015 #75

Yes, it is a dumb as shit policy but the authoritarian/control freaks love it. Rex Sep 2015 #77

Zero tolerance for people who dare to stand up for the disabled. Lancero Sep 2015 #80

Is there another source? hollysmom Sep 2015 #81

A nice vacation for him taught_me_patience Sep 2015 #84

Yeah... And kicked off the football team, and a suspension in his acedemic record. Glassunion Sep 2015 #95

that happened to my son in grade school lunatica Sep 2015 #86

Of course he was get the red out Sep 2015 #87

The big question is could he, and others, intervened without hitting the bully? uppityperson Sep 2015 #89

Personally I feel the response was appropriate. Glassunion Sep 2015 #94

Good question. I doubt anyone at that (or most) schools are versed in how... Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #96

Nice hit -- down like a sack of oranges. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #93

Zero tolerance started in 1995 by the Feds. oneshooter Sep 2015 #98

Nothing has ever changed knightmaar Sep 2015 #102

He is a stand up kid libodem Sep 2015 #106

I'm surprised they didn't suspend the blind kid as well d_legendary1 Sep 2015 #107

years ago my then 5th grader took on the school bully defending a smaller classmate dembotoz Sep 2015 #108

Time spent in the penalty box is not all bad. Glassunion Sep 2015 #109

The matter of the student being suspended at Huntington Beach High School has changed mrdmk Sep 2015 #110

Is there anyone who actually supports zero-tolerance? PersonNumber503602 Sep 2015 #112

I support public schools, but many are run by fucking idiots with no common sense davidn3600 Sep 2015 #113

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