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DirkGently

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50. So excessive force that doesn't quite kill is cool?

Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:23 PM

Sep 2015

Again, why not a bat to the back of the head? Also might not kill, right?

When cops shoot someone they could have Tazed, or Taze someone they could have tackled, or tackle someone they could have simply ordered to the ground, everyone is upset. It's so important, we say, to use the least amount of force necessary.

But a kid so much bigger than the others he literally could have just said "stop it" knocks someone cold from behind, and it's cool because we really don't like the target of the vicious, potentially lethal attack?

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I'm no fan of violence. But I cannot say this bully did not have it coming. [View all] Glassunion Sep 2015 OP

that guy was kind. I wouldn't have gone for the face! niyad Sep 2015 #1

He did lay out the kid pretty go though. It seemed like a solid blindside. Glassunion Sep 2015 #2

you are correct. he did lay that little thug out well. niyad Sep 2015 #3

Dear god, what has happened to the human race. AllFieldsRequired Sep 2015 #4

There will always be assholes. We've had them for 10's of thousands of years. Glassunion Sep 2015 #5

You truly need to read more. History and literature would be a good start . . . Journeyman Sep 2015 #9

What a truly obnoxious and insulting remark. AllFieldsRequired Sep 2015 #10

No worries. It often happens that when when we are being chastised for a specific question LanternWaste Sep 2015 #17

You should be a politician AllFieldsRequired Sep 2015 #18

Indeed, chervilant Sep 2015 #58

I am glad someone stopped him, I wonder if he will think hard upon his future dealing with others? Rex Sep 2015 #6

After that punch, I don't think he'll be doing any hard thinking for a while. Glassunion Sep 2015 #8

Yup, he's going all "two plus two equals peanut butter" right now Scootaloo Sep 2015 #28

Just when you think.... quickesst Sep 2015 #7

Hard to say if the bully learned anything from this Warpy Sep 2015 #11

I'm sure... Glassunion Sep 2015 #16

The next 12 seconds of the exchange can be seen here . . . Journeyman Sep 2015 #12

Awesome. Thanks Glassunion Sep 2015 #13

Good to see the kid that knocked him down, go over and try to help him back up. Rex Sep 2015 #14

Actually he went over to the other kids unconscious form to talk shit to it. Islandurp Sep 2015 #15

Emotionally kind of satisfying, but probably ill-advised. DirkGently Sep 2015 #19

Bully's need the asses kicked snooper2 Sep 2015 #20

And if the "hero" kid had killed him? DirkGently Sep 2015 #21

And if the bully had killed the visually impared kid? Glassunion Sep 2015 #26

No. There was no life / death threat DirkGently Sep 2015 #27

A couple of things Glassunion Sep 2015 #33

Not the same as crushing someone from behind. At all. DirkGently Sep 2015 #35

If a cop did this he would have arrested the skinny bully after knocking him out GummyBearz Sep 2015 #41

+1 Glassunion Sep 2015 #44

Defending a bully of someone totally helpless, Katashi_itto Sep 2015 #82

So rolling my eyes over here... chervilant Sep 2015 #55

Personally I feel the response was appropriate. Glassunion Sep 2015 #23

And yet we crucify cops for exactly that DirkGently Sep 2015 #25

This was not maximum force. The kid met force with exactly the same force. Glassunion Sep 2015 #29

Yet only one person was knocked unconscious? DirkGently Sep 2015 #32

You don't know if he was knocked unconscious. Although it did look like he had to wait for his Glassunion Sep 2015 #36

Sorry, all that is utter nonsense. DirkGently Sep 2015 #39

I'd disagree. Glassunion Sep 2015 #43

It was a gigantic, reckless escalation in force. DirkGently Sep 2015 #56

You are still Monday Morning Quarterbacking. Glassunion Sep 2015 #62

My MMQB is as legitimate as yours, Glassunion. DirkGently Sep 2015 #63

Who cares Travis_0004 Sep 2015 #38

That kind of blow is often lethal. DirkGently Sep 2015 #45

It wasn't lethal. and there were no weapons involved. And this isn't boxing or MMA Scootaloo Sep 2015 #48

First off I'm not against a blindside hit Travis_0004 Sep 2015 #52

Indeed. You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. Glassunion Sep 2015 #53

Did you just say "It is extremely, extremely dangerous to hit someone who is not looking."? Glassunion Sep 2015 #64

Both are dangerous of course DirkGently Sep 2015 #67

And all of it could have been avoided if the first kid was not repeatedly punching Glassunion Sep 2015 #68

Doesn't justify an overreaction. DirkGently Sep 2015 #70

an over reaction would be breaking multiple bones or a throat w0nderer Sep 2015 #79

is this about cops or bullied people? w0nderer Sep 2015 #78

False equivalency. Maedhros Sep 2015 #30

We expect them to sucker punch each other instead? DirkGently Sep 2015 #59

I wasn't justifying anything. I was pointing out that comparing the actions of children Maedhros Sep 2015 #76

No. He couldn't have "scared him off" or "ended it with a word" Scootaloo Sep 2015 #31

Disagree. Blasting someone in the back of the head IS bullying. DirkGently Sep 2015 #34

You and I must have experienced extremely different worlds of bullying, then Scootaloo Sep 2015 #40

That is a different thing you're describing. DirkGently Sep 2015 #42

It's a case of someone coming to the defense of someone unable to fight back Scootaloo Sep 2015 #46

So defend him. Don't kill another kid. DirkGently Sep 2015 #47

Who died? No one. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #49

So excessive force that doesn't quite kill is cool? DirkGently Sep 2015 #50

If someone is getting their face punched in, and a cop tazes the assailant, I have no complaints Scootaloo Sep 2015 #54

The poster is intentionally downplaying the attack on the blind kid. Glassunion Sep 2015 #57

No sir. You are downplaying smashing someone's head in from behind DirkGently Sep 2015 #60

No, I'm not down playing it. Glassunion Sep 2015 #66

The murder punch was unnecessary, period. DirkGently Sep 2015 #69

Ok that made me laugh... Glassunion Sep 2015 #71

And I will not celebrate it. DirkGently Sep 2015 #72

Not celebrating it. Glassunion Sep 2015 #73

Well I don't feel we even have an argument then. DirkGently Sep 2015 #74

You too. Go Jets! Glassunion Sep 2015 #75

What if ISIS is about to cut someone's head off? Reter Sep 2015 #80

I'd call that a drastically different situation. DirkGently Sep 2015 #83

Give hero a medal Liberal_in_LA Sep 2015 #22

Petition to get him reinstated football team Liberal_in_LA Sep 2015 #24

He was not kicked off the football team in the first place. DirkGently Sep 2015 #37

5 second video and people think they know all about it. uhnope Sep 2015 #51

Oh for gawd's sake it's Friday. n/t DirkGently Sep 2015 #61

dude got KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT Facility Inspector Sep 2015 #65

My concern is..... imanamerican63 Sep 2015 #77

Looks fair to me. dilby Sep 2015 #81