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Jamastiene

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56. Corruption can be one cause.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:29 PM
Sep 2015

I don't mean corruption in the usual sense. I mean corruption of the definition of what a labor union is supposed to be and do. Many of the labor unions down where I live are not real. They are put here to keep us from having real labor unions. They do nothing but take money (dues) and tell you to vote against your own interests, for those anti-labor blue dog dems. I have a friend from NY who had experience with real unions before he moved down here for a while in the 90s. He explained how these unions down here are a crock of shit, not real, and only put here to keep the real unions out. That is why labor unions do not have more power. That is why the more liberal part of the party does not have more control.

You always gotta watch the south for a deranged interpretation of what any Democratic Party values really mean. ALWAYS. I am not one for demographic hatred, but I'm talking about the power structure here. There are tons of great Democrats in the south. That's not my point. My point is that the power structure of the party down here in the southern states is what is giving us these hideous corporate blue dog conservative Democrats. It is how someone like Kim Davis can be on a speaking tour with all her Republican buddies right now, refusing to do her damn job, refusing to follow the laws of the country, and all the while she's getting paid $80,000 a year for NOT doing her job AND she is an ELECTED DEMOCRAT. That's what passes for a Democrat in many areas down here. It's sickening. That is why I wish there was a way to explain the difference between general south bashing and talking about the shit power structure Democrats down here have to put up with. Y'all give us people like THIS as our choice of Democrat to vote for?

In my county in NC, they are some of the most conservative damn Democrats around. They act just like Kim Davis, only there are no cameras and no opposition to the types of things they do. It happens all over. Primaries come around and our choices on the ballot are the same right wing Democrats every single time, period. So, either you vote for them, for your local choices, or leave it blank. They are going to "win" the nomination either way, because they always do, because they are the only ones on the ballot in the primaries. It would be like if every time you went to vote, every single office you were voting for had a single person on the ballot and that person was Kim Davis or another just like her. That is what it is like. It leaves a sickening taste in a person's mouth. I know. I taste it every time I vote for local elections in the primaries. It's a crock of shit.

That is how anti-union candidates are able to get any union support. A corruption of the very definition of what it all means, the point of having unions in the first place. It is like that saying, you can find any poll to support your position on any issue if you look around. Or Bible verses. Jesus was known as the Prince of Peace among many, but he also said he came with a sword in the Bible too. So, that is the kind of twisted logic used. It could be why you don't understand how 3rd wayers can get union support. The logic is just too twisted. It is anti-logic.

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Kicking and bookmarking.. AuntPatsy Sep 2015 #1
Same here...Thanks Mad! haikugal Sep 2015 #2
kick merrily Sep 2015 #3
They have the Senate locked up. With only a few exceptions. stillwaiting Sep 2015 #4
And we're losing a progressive in the Senate next year. Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #59
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #5
fuck from. whoever posts these is doing a great service to everyone. :D roguevalley Sep 2015 #7
Really important. Thank you. zentrum Sep 2015 #6
To me it's important because it was planned and put into action with profit in mind. madfloridian Sep 2015 #23
^Yes^ zentrum Sep 2015 #39
The ONLY thing we can do is Doctor_J Sep 2015 #8
You are right, they pay no attention to us. madfloridian Sep 2015 #13
This is the purpose of the "Lesser of Two Evils" meme: Maedhros Sep 2015 #44
I am done with that game, forever. hifiguy Sep 2015 #46
They will continue to play the game as long as the rubes fall for it. Maedhros Dec 2015 #64
exactly. hopemountain Dec 2015 #63
Wow. What real friends of organized labor these, and I use the term loosely, "people" are. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #9
Kicking and Recommending FloriTexan Sep 2015 #10
K&R CharlotteVale Sep 2015 #11
K&R Paka Sep 2015 #12
nauseating ibegurpard Sep 2015 #14
I said several times over the years, that I will never again vote for anyone associated with the DLC Fuddnik Sep 2015 #15
Yep. We, the people, have to now take back the people's party. mmonk Sep 2015 #16
Yes. madfloridian Sep 2015 #24
Great post. mmonk Sep 2015 #28
Thanks for posting this. K&R think Sep 2015 #17
That paragraph about establishing presidential primacy over the legislature... Volaris Sep 2015 #18
"that's called the IMPERIAL PRESIDENCY" madfloridian Sep 2015 #49
K & R. This clarifies things even more. Duppers Sep 2015 #19
K&R - What I don't get, is why ANY labor union would support a 3rd Way candidate 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #20
Same reason some accept millions of Bill Gates ed reform money. madfloridian Sep 2015 #22
You know what they say about drunks - they can't reform until they hit bottom. erronis Sep 2015 #42
Like unions & any middle-class could survive another 4/8 years of union busting and job-outsourcing.. 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #47
absolutely. and we will never win a living wage or hopemountain Dec 2015 #61
Corruption can be one cause. Jamastiene Sep 2015 #56
That is quite an eye-opening piece of writing. You actually answered my question. Thank you. 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #57
we have to take a very close look at all "democrat" reps hopemountain Dec 2015 #62
eye opening restorefreedom Sep 2015 #21
Rahm's quote seems ironic dreamnightwind Sep 2015 #25
Yep, and don't forget when Dean was chair we took the Senate as well. madfloridian Sep 2015 #36
Fabulous research & very important emsimon33 Sep 2015 #26
Kicked Enthusiast Sep 2015 #27
"I want to be invisible. I do guerrilla warfare. I paint my face and travel at night. MisterP Sep 2015 #29
+1 - great analysis. I like the X or Y frameworks. erronis Sep 2015 #43
Thanks, Mad Thespian2 Sep 2015 #30
I wish I could rec this post more than once. Thank you. nt antigop Sep 2015 #31
"a bloodless revolution" < Or just not his, or his office mates. Tens of millions in permanent jtuck004 Sep 2015 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author jtuck004 Sep 2015 #32
The blood came later...like when the homeowners foamed the runway for the Banksters. Octafish Sep 2015 #34
A LOT of harm was done by such policies. madfloridian Sep 2015 #50
A lot of tortured rationalization DirkGently Sep 2015 #35
.... madfloridian Sep 2015 #58
Remember when liberals ran the party??? freebrew Sep 2015 #37
Great post. Good to know how we got to where we are today. marmar Sep 2015 #38
So opposing this is the very definition of what an UNDERGROUND Democrat should be. yodermon Sep 2015 #40
Good point. madfloridian Sep 2015 #48
After Nixon's resignation, sulphurdunn Sep 2015 #41
Yup. hifiguy Sep 2015 #45
Oooopsie fascisthunter Sep 2015 #51
Really instructive, thanks! nt Babel_17 Sep 2015 #52
Hostile takeover... LWolf Sep 2015 #53
Me, too. Pretty hostile. madfloridian Sep 2015 #54
Liberals have never been in charge of shit. Jamastiene Sep 2015 #55
..... madfloridian Sep 2015 #60
reverse hostile takeover YellowMango Jun 2016 #65
KnR coyote Jun 2016 #66
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