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40. The only hatred in this thread has been directed at me and not

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 02:10 AM

Sep 2015

the other way around.

You THINK I THINK such and such and whatnot but my words are very clear. I am for liberty and justice for all Americans and all people around the world. I see right now as an opportunity to woo some working class Republicans to vote Democrat due to Sanders and the Pope's recent activities.

I value social issues as MORE important than economic issues. A person can get by without money but when justice is not present then it is far worse than being broke. I would far prefer that bad things happen to me than happen to anyone else (besides Trump, GWB, Cheney and a few others who can GTH) The reality is that I give far bigger shit about YOU and everybody else in the world than I do myself. I know how lucky I am and strive to help any and all others be in such a fortuitous position. I want to end cruelty to all people and animals and I want everyone to have justice under the law and freedom to live their lives as they see fit. I don't judge groups, only individuals and I give individuals the benefit of the doubt until it can no longer be done (like Cheney GWB)

I outlined an idea to provide economic and social justice to all Americans. No amount of corporate money could defeat a candidate backed by the working left and the religious right. It's the truth and neither group is being served by corporations in any way. Give 'em a state or two for a few years in exchange for no more war and economic and social justice in 48 of the 50 states? I am some crazy bigot for this hypothetical? If you think that then you are Tea Party Left., completely impractical, unreasonable and very SELFISH!

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What if the Religious Right allied with the Working Left? [View all] Jetboy Sep 2015 OP

NO! eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #1

So we continue the status quo? yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #25

Um, YES! MohRokTah Sep 2015 #26

I know. They'd never sign with us either. yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #38

smooth CreekDog Sep 2015 #191

Well maybe. But I don't see it happening soon. rusty quoin Sep 2015 #2

Corporations sure don't want it to happen. There really isn't anything that we can do as Jetboy Sep 2015 #3

Wow your post did get a reaction I never expected rusty quoin Sep 2015 #179

Align with misogynistic homophobes and leave social issues "to the states"? PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #4

Technically yes. Jetboy Sep 2015 #6

Well, yipidee do for you. You're dangerously wrong. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #9

All of that is true but it is also true that children of the people doing this stuff Jetboy Sep 2015 #12

There is NO economic justice without reproductive freedom. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #13

The only thing I want is for America to be controlled by the people and not Jetboy Sep 2015 #15

I'll take corporations over fundies EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK!!! MohRokTah Sep 2015 #27

You have Skidmore Sep 2015 #54

+infinity (nt) LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #61

A country controlled by right-wing fascists is not a country I want. gollygee Sep 2015 #145

THIS!!! bettyellen Sep 2015 #83

+1000 gollygee Sep 2015 #147

And I just read this in a thread where I am blocked, so I cant respond there randys1 Sep 2015 #206

The only reason that is happening is because people are constantly fighting for social justice! LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #60

That's exactly correct. In fact it would probably be worse! PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #67

I didn't want to kick this vile foolish thread but your post is spot on Number23 Sep 2015 #100

+100000 gollygee Sep 2015 #146

Let me add my thanks for posting this. I am amazed, wait, no i am NOT randys1 Sep 2015 #207

Hell No gollygee Sep 2015 #141

NO RandySF Sep 2015 #181

It's not even just about abortion and gay rights. RandySF Sep 2015 #183

Social progress does not inevitably move forward CreekDog Sep 2015 #192

THIS!!! LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #59

Agree. Look at WI--and other Red states. riversedge Sep 2015 #205

Fart noises Solly Mack Sep 2015 #5

Right back attcha! Jetboy Sep 2015 #7

Oh, you hit my funny bone. Can't stop laughing. UtahLib Sep 2015 #22

It's deja vu all over again! Jetboy Sep 2015 #23

This is the best comment. nt betsuni Sep 2015 #186

Screwing over women and gays would be for the "greater good" of the country? CharlotteVale Sep 2015 #8

Overthrowing Corporate Rule is not inevitable. Progress in civil rights for women, POC, gays and Jetboy Sep 2015 #10

Somebody always has to be the first to stand up bravely and volunteer others to sacrifice pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #11

common good smilingwen Sep 2015 #24

Which rights, exactly, are YOU proposing to sacrifice for yourself? NYC Liberal Sep 2015 #86

He is not giving up a single thing bettyellen Sep 2015 #88

"I'm willing, out of the goodness of my heart, to let you gays and women sacrifice your rights." NYC Liberal Sep 2015 #89

This is so repulsive and harmful to Sanders- that idiocy like this bettyellen Sep 2015 #90

It's all about the greater good! NuclearDem Sep 2015 #64

"Leave social issues to the states" jberryhill Sep 2015 #14

Neither side would want to... daleanime Sep 2015 #16

interestingly a religious *left* is building up: as the Baggers scream that the Pope's a Commie MisterP Sep 2015 #17

I thought it interesting and gave you a bump I don't know why no one else did rusty quoin Sep 2015 #18

No. No no no no no. No no no. NuclearDem Sep 2015 #19

I suppose that you mean the "straight white working left" Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #20

If it was only straight white working left and the religious right the candidate Jetboy Sep 2015 #21

What you suggest is the most vile and evil thing I have ever seen on DU. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #28

I'll put your mark in the collum of 1 state for the Xtian Fundies is not Jetboy Sep 2015 #29

No, it's not. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #30

Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #31

No, even if you could actually achieve that, it is not worth it. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #32

There's already many u more than one state- but you don't know or care. bettyellen Sep 2015 #84

Oh wow- handing us world peace on a silver platter are you? bettyellen Sep 2015 #96

+1000 nt LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #62

+about a million stage left Sep 2015 #82

So without LGBT and other minorities you can't win. That means you can't win. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #58

Sounds like it gollygee Sep 2015 #149

Here's where you fail: the first sentence. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #69

The whole thing is a fail gollygee Sep 2015 #150

Nowhere fast? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #151

I'm going to hope he's an anti-Sanders troll gollygee Sep 2015 #152

Poor people can't just move gollygee Sep 2015 #148

No. You know what? NO. IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #33

Vouchers could be created for people who have to move out of the 1 Xtian Jetboy Sep 2015 #34

Why would you fear the fundies? They're no threat to YOU. IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #36

The only hatred in this thread has been directed at me and not Jetboy Sep 2015 #40

Yeah. That's it. Play the victim card. IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #43

I'd be willing to give my life for no more global wars and Jetboy Sep 2015 #45

I do? IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #46

No global war and economic and social justice guaranteed in Jetboy Sep 2015 #48

You don't have the right to tell minorities what's "good enough" IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #49

Taliban Left? Back away from the keyboard, dudebro. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #65

Taliban left should be the end of this discussion. The person has no clue what they are randys1 Sep 2015 #209

So here's poor little lefty me trapped in a burning building with a bigoted rw type and Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #53

+1000 gollygee Sep 2015 #155

How brave of you. Meldread Sep 2015 #35

I strive to have the highest moral code and beleive in protecting the innocent Jetboy Sep 2015 #37

Yet you are willing to throw everybody else under the bus to get your way. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #39

I would be willing to dress in Drag and live in Alabama as the only Jetboy Sep 2015 #41

That is easy for you to say. Meldread Sep 2015 #44

Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #47

There is no social justice from Skidmore Sep 2015 #55

Every post you state is getting funnier than the last one. passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #170

I was crammed full of ideas in high school myself... IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #193

You are an idiot. Meldread Sep 2015 #42

Some of the smarter ones already have Warpy Sep 2015 #50

Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes Recursion Sep 2015 #51

No thanks. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #52

Thank you Erich. Good to see a Sanders supporter here. bettyellen Sep 2015 #94

Vague and faith based nonsense. If corps are in charge and they support our 'social agenda' why Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #56

I think you nailed it. Skidmore Sep 2015 #57

Your idea is based off of bad assumptions would destroy all progress made in the last 200 years LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #63

2016 Election Facility Inspector Sep 2015 #66

I'm recommending your post, because you've caught a lot of grief Ron Green Sep 2015 #68

I know, right?! IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #71

. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #72

Remember what Kane was clapping for? Ron Green Sep 2015 #78

Irrelevant. This is indicative of me clapping for that post. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #79

Is this better, Mr. Green? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #108

I would like to take a moment to welcome you to DU LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #73

Thank you IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #75

Bravo! Every Sander supporter should be all over this OP saying No! If they want our support they bettyellen Sep 2015 #85

I've tried to avoid any of the tension over Hillary vs. Bernie, but... IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #93

i agree with your thoughts. I'm seeing two prolific Sanders supporters here.... bettyellen Sep 2015 #95

Dangit, I do not want to kick this thread!! But this is such a fabulous post Number23 Sep 2015 #101

I want to kick it till every Sanders suporter gives it a HELL NO! bettyellen Sep 2015 #102

HELL NO gollygee Sep 2015 #153

I'm a Sanders supporter, stage left Sep 2015 #105

Thanks for that. I'm a bit afraid this kind of thinking has bled into some very pourus minds here... bettyellen Sep 2015 #106

you're welcome stage left Sep 2015 #111

I think you'd be doing them a favor reposting it there and asking the to weigh in.... bettyellen Sep 2015 #115

Good idea. stage left Sep 2015 #120

Jurors #3 and 7 speak nothing but the truth Number23 Sep 2015 #132

I thank you for alerting IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #130

The answer is: LOTS Number23 Sep 2015 #131

But they're doing us wrong for world peace! And ummm increased pay. bettyellen Sep 2015 #135

I don't know why he thinks this would mean an end to all war gollygee Sep 2015 #156

I think he wants to replace the Dem base with anybody except for us.... bettyellen Sep 2015 #162

thank you for your eloquence. stage left Sep 2015 #172

Thank you IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #194

The premise is ludicrous on its face pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #177

This Sanders supporter says Absolutey NO. historylovr Sep 2015 #122

Thanks! I yelled at an old friend for suggesting a similar coalition and I had to say.... bettyellen Sep 2015 #123

Irony gollygee Sep 2015 #158

Yep- makes it obvious he has given not one fuck about us, plans to continue that... bettyellen Sep 2015 #160

I certainly hope so. gollygee Sep 2015 #161

And this what I feared RandySF Sep 2015 #182

It's not as if the "back of the bus" concept hasn't already been floated here enough times. bettyellen Sep 2015 #195

I've seen far too much of it over the years... IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #196

The other thing he doesnt understand is the religious evangelical right that he says are randys1 Sep 2015 #211

Wow gollygee Sep 2015 #164

Excellent response! Solly Mack Sep 2015 #176

Love being lectured I'm somewhat closed minded about you giving away my human rights? bettyellen Sep 2015 #91

And the grief he has gotten stage left Sep 2015 #114

Holy Fuck gollygee Sep 2015 #142

But grandmother, what big eyes you have!!!! JoePhilly Sep 2015 #70

Not the religious right, exactly. The religious center-left. DirkGently Sep 2015 #74

You're advocating people change- he's arguing the party ditch SJWs for bettyellen Sep 2015 #103

Correct. I'm not for leaving social issues DirkGently Sep 2015 #109

Hows about.... AlbertCat Sep 2015 #76

Then they'd cease to be the Religious Right... JHB Sep 2015 #77

Doubt it. The Religious Right thrives on the assumption of the Prosperty Gospel. haele Sep 2015 #80

No, no, a thousand times no!!! stage left Sep 2015 #81

Post this in the Sander group- they seem like they have no comment in GD and I for one.... bettyellen Sep 2015 #87

What to create The United Theocratic Fascist States? Hortensis Sep 2015 #92

I lulz'ed KG Sep 2015 #97

WTF? greatauntoftriplets Sep 2015 #98

The problem with trying to compromise with the Religious Right, in a nutshell Electric Monk Sep 2015 #99

What would the impetus be for the religious right? Marr Sep 2015 #104

It's nothing but a big fuck you to women and POC..... bettyellen Sep 2015 #107

What evidence do you have that members of the religious right are hostile... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #110

Great Question. stage left Sep 2015 #113

The whole argument seems to be built on a faulty premise... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #117

No. Not a good idea at all. historylovr Sep 2015 #112

And to people of color. stage left Sep 2015 #119

Indeed they are, yes. historylovr Sep 2015 #121

Are you sure you're at the right site? zappaman Sep 2015 #116

i guess women and POC shouldn't be insulted by the "low info" crap.... bettyellen Sep 2015 #126

I wish it were that simple. IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #129

I thought this OP might be a parody at first, but I see it being discussed in the Sanders group and bettyellen Sep 2015 #133

I wish it were parody. IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #139

So you think the claim to just want world peace was for real? I don't know... bettyellen Sep 2015 #143

That I'm not sure of. IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #171

The word that comes to my mind about the lack of outrage is more like disgusting. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2015 #140

Since this is obviously a strategy for Sanders outlined here, why don't you post it in his group? bettyellen Sep 2015 #118

This would require compromise and that is a very, very difficult thing bklyncowgirl Sep 2015 #124

Leave social issues to the states? States like.......Alabama Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2015 #125

this thread is a trip nt tishaLA Sep 2015 #127

I love that the OP got a hide on a post in their thread. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #128

The whole thread should have been hidden gollygee Sep 2015 #154

I guess 4 out of 3 thought this was a viable option. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #159

Plus there were two juries on his "Taliban Left" replies. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #163

I think somebody is scared and are looking for allies for their candidate. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #165

It's a perfect solution for those already angered by black and female voters! bettyellen Sep 2015 #167

It's a game to some people. They pretend to be altruistic and virtuous bettyellen Sep 2015 #166

"I'd like world peace, freedom from corporate rule and economic justice for all US Americans, betsuni Sep 2015 #134

OK, that made me laugh. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #137

Perfect reply! pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #144

lol! Excellent! Solly Mack Sep 2015 #169

Ha!I wonder which southern state he'd choose for the lucky one? stage left Sep 2015 #173

South Carolina. betsuni Sep 2015 #187

yes, I do. stage left Sep 2015 #198

"Corporations support...the Democrats (sic) social agenda"??????????? SINCE WHEN? WinkyDink Sep 2015 #136

They probably noticed some TV commercials geared toward all us or something.... bettyellen Sep 2015 #157

Let's get those who practice willful ignorance and believe in fairy tales to think critically? NightWatcher Sep 2015 #138

because the religious right doesn't work that way. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #168

it's completely indefensible. stage left Sep 2015 #174

It's called third-way and it is killing us. marym625 Sep 2015 #175

That would basically be a doomsday scenario for the Koch crowd LittleBlue Sep 2015 #178

I'm sorry but this the craziest thing I've read yet on here. RandySF Sep 2015 #180

I get the feeling your heart is in the right place, but this is a very Republicanesque idea. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #184

I'm going to rec this RandySF Sep 2015 #185

In a post some years ago, I once labeled this phenomenon as a "perverse rec" pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #189

I've been known to call it a Train Rec. Iggo Sep 2015 #200

They may be temporary 'allies' on issues like TPP which the tea party opposes too but pampango Sep 2015 #188

No F-ing Way The Religious have one goal and that is Theocracy. They will lie, cheat and even kill YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #190

What if unicorns started flying out of my butt? Rex Sep 2015 #197

The wings are all right. stage left Sep 2015 #199

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #201

Sign me up!!! Iggo Sep 2015 #202

I have nothing in common with those racist hating bigoted assholes onecaliberal Sep 2015 #203

My knee-jerk reaction is to snort with derision Android3.14 Sep 2015 #204

funny how some fake progressives are EAGER to trash the rights of minorities geek tragedy Sep 2015 #208

The "Religious right" are anti-freedom workinclasszero Sep 2015 #210