General Discussion

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)

21. Lani Guinier tried to explain how the prison-census-voter link worked and I have been explaining

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 02:00 PM

Sep 2015

this to DUers for a long time. This is precisely the reason Dr. Guinier was not able to become AG under Clinton when he was forced to back down from her appointment to appease the RW pols. (Never quite forgave him for this move). This relation between prisoners and the census is the primary reason that so many red states and red jurisdictions fight to have prisons built within their districts.

Prisoners count as residents for census purposes thereby entitling more Congressional representation for those districts BUT the prisoners are not allowed to vote. Blue districts and states have lost representation as prisons have been moved and built outside those districts. It is amazing how politically ignorant American voters are about what is going on around them. And the media does a good job of not exposing so many of these ploys. We are lucky to be no worse off than we are, America.

http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/guinier/

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

66 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

GOPer Caught On Tape Explaining How She’ll Redistrict Black Democratic Colleague Out Of Office [View all] L. Coyote Sep 2015 OP

GOP Evil Knows No Limit Or Bound cantbeserious Sep 2015 #1

Cheating is the only way repugs can win brush Sep 2015 #2

No they use Treason as well remember RayGun and the hostages Vincardog Sep 2015 #26

To the Greatest Page. We should invade her facebook page here: ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2015 #3

A couple of corrections. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #4

Important corrections...thank you. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2015 #6

True. But this just goes to show that redistricting should NEVER be left to the 1monster Sep 2015 #8

Fla voters passed a Constitutional Amendment several years ago... HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #14

I'm aware. But I'm not holding my breath. I've lived in Florida for over 1monster Sep 2015 #15

Been here 50. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #16

Good. 1monster Sep 2015 #19

You are accusing a Dem Congressperson of gerrymandering Florida for the Republicans. L. Coyote Sep 2015 #37

That's exactly what happened. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #38

No, that's just what you say happened. L. Coyote Sep 2015 #45

Links are right there in my post. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #50

The Rs did the gerrymandering, and now post facto you want to blame a Dem. That's absurd and wrong. L. Coyote Sep 2015 #53

And she colloberated with the Rs. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #55

So, now you are admitting you were wrong. Well, keep backtracking until you are right. L. Coyote Sep 2015 #61

WTF? I haven't back-tracked one bit. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #64

A Dem anything in Florida can most likely be a DINO. djean111 Sep 2015 #51

Debbie's goons threatened a AA who filed to run in my district. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #56

I'm afraid this is correct. I suspect it goes on elsewhere as well. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #60

You know what they say about opinions and suspicions. L. Coyote Sep 2015 #62

Well, don't fall in one. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #66

K&R. I'm glad this move has been exposed. Overseas Sep 2015 #5

If only gerrymandering was a crime punishable by prison time. Rex Sep 2015 #7

If that was the case, Rep Brown would be in prison also. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #10

Gerrymandering is one of those issues where you can say both parties do it. Rex Sep 2015 #12

Illinois is one messed up looking state gerrymander wise. [nt] Ichigo Kurosaki Sep 2015 #27

Yes. murielm99 Sep 2015 #43

It should be, along with vote and election tampering, with severe sentences. Hortensis Sep 2015 #24

Why isn't this national news? perdita9 Sep 2015 #9

Because Rep Brown is not an innocent victim. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #11

Why do you not want to talk about the racial issue here? CreekDog Sep 2015 #46

What the hell are you talking about? HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #47

You blame Dems Reps in racially aggregated gerrymandered districts. That's just ludicrous. L. Coyote Sep 2015 #48

She participated in the gerrymandering. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #49

You are conflating two distinct issues. Don't blame Dems for the gerrymandering by the Rs. L. Coyote Sep 2015 #52

I'll blame Dems who colloberated with Rs in gerrymandering. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #57

You blaming someone is a lot different than the facts you falsely assert. Stick to facts instead of L. Coyote Sep 2015 #63

Whatever. Peep can read my posts and links, and see you're obviously wrong. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #65

Step 2: Put all the black people and liberals in prison. n/t librechik Sep 2015 #13

Yep.. the ultimate goal. mountain grammy Sep 2015 #17

It worked in Furguson packman Sep 2015 #59

Can't this be officially investigated? zentrum Sep 2015 #18

That's RICO shit right there. Conspiracy. Fed charges elehhhhna Sep 2015 #20

Lani Guinier tried to explain how the prison-census-voter link worked and I have been explaining kelliekat44 Sep 2015 #21

That is ugly, ugly, ugly. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #22

She apologized so all is good... C Moon Sep 2015 #23

True. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #25

God forgives her Plucketeer Sep 2015 #33

Adkins: “I apologize if my statements offended anyone." radicalliberal Sep 2015 #35

True. That's more like an eye-roll than an apology. C Moon Sep 2015 #41

Gerrymandering Leave Millions Of People Without A Voice In Government NonMetro Sep 2015 #28

So does the electoral college. YOHABLO Sep 2015 #31

SAme thing has happened in Ohio nt No Vested Interest Sep 2015 #42

There really is no end to Repig sleaziness hifiguy Sep 2015 #29

they know they cannot appeal to black voters with their ideas Skittles Sep 2015 #30

K&R valerief Sep 2015 #32

Ugh Liberal_in_LA Sep 2015 #34

GOP thinks politics is "played" like Survivor. Which means... Beartracks Sep 2015 #36

Hello, federal charges! shenmue Sep 2015 #39

No wonder thay support a high incarceration rate. Disgusting! nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #40

Vile and disgusting. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #44

Before even reading this I guessed it was a Florida Republican. stevenleser Sep 2015 #54

Most Republican officeholders are criminals, IMHO. John Poet Sep 2015 #58