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101. Dangit, I do not want to kick this thread!! But this is such a fabulous post

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 02:30 PM

Sep 2015

Well said. Every last word.

I have strained relationships with a number of friends who identify as Republican and conservative. They claim to care, to be good friends, to support their party because of "the economy" and have no problem with LGBT's or women's rights or people of color. But, then, they'll badger me every election. "Can't you just vote for Rmoney/Chump/Cruz Control/Rubio/Klondike Kardashian? We need to stop Obama. The liberals will take all our taxes!" So, I ask them "Well, what about the gays and lesbians and transgender and women and blacks?" I'll get some answer along the lines of "That's less important" or "You'll have to wait" or "Can't you just put that aside for us right now?" or "Sacrifices need to be made". So, they care, but, their money and privilege is more important than my rights and freedom? More important than the rights and freedom of millions of people who have done nothing but commit the "crime" of being born an "other"?

Absolutely awesome.

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What if the Religious Right allied with the Working Left? [View all] Jetboy Sep 2015 OP

NO! eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #1

So we continue the status quo? yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #25

Um, YES! MohRokTah Sep 2015 #26

I know. They'd never sign with us either. yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #38

smooth CreekDog Sep 2015 #191

Well maybe. But I don't see it happening soon. rusty quoin Sep 2015 #2

Corporations sure don't want it to happen. There really isn't anything that we can do as Jetboy Sep 2015 #3

Wow your post did get a reaction I never expected rusty quoin Sep 2015 #179

Align with misogynistic homophobes and leave social issues "to the states"? PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #4

Technically yes. Jetboy Sep 2015 #6

Well, yipidee do for you. You're dangerously wrong. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #9

All of that is true but it is also true that children of the people doing this stuff Jetboy Sep 2015 #12

There is NO economic justice without reproductive freedom. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #13

The only thing I want is for America to be controlled by the people and not Jetboy Sep 2015 #15

I'll take corporations over fundies EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK!!! MohRokTah Sep 2015 #27

You have Skidmore Sep 2015 #54

+infinity (nt) LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #61

A country controlled by right-wing fascists is not a country I want. gollygee Sep 2015 #145

THIS!!! bettyellen Sep 2015 #83

+1000 gollygee Sep 2015 #147

And I just read this in a thread where I am blocked, so I cant respond there randys1 Sep 2015 #206

The only reason that is happening is because people are constantly fighting for social justice! LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #60

That's exactly correct. In fact it would probably be worse! PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #67

I didn't want to kick this vile foolish thread but your post is spot on Number23 Sep 2015 #100

+100000 gollygee Sep 2015 #146

Let me add my thanks for posting this. I am amazed, wait, no i am NOT randys1 Sep 2015 #207

Hell No gollygee Sep 2015 #141

NO RandySF Sep 2015 #181

It's not even just about abortion and gay rights. RandySF Sep 2015 #183

Social progress does not inevitably move forward CreekDog Sep 2015 #192

THIS!!! LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #59

Agree. Look at WI--and other Red states. riversedge Sep 2015 #205

Fart noises Solly Mack Sep 2015 #5

Right back attcha! Jetboy Sep 2015 #7

Oh, you hit my funny bone. Can't stop laughing. UtahLib Sep 2015 #22

It's deja vu all over again! Jetboy Sep 2015 #23

This is the best comment. nt betsuni Sep 2015 #186

Screwing over women and gays would be for the "greater good" of the country? CharlotteVale Sep 2015 #8

Overthrowing Corporate Rule is not inevitable. Progress in civil rights for women, POC, gays and Jetboy Sep 2015 #10

Somebody always has to be the first to stand up bravely and volunteer others to sacrifice pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #11

common good smilingwen Sep 2015 #24

Which rights, exactly, are YOU proposing to sacrifice for yourself? NYC Liberal Sep 2015 #86

He is not giving up a single thing bettyellen Sep 2015 #88

"I'm willing, out of the goodness of my heart, to let you gays and women sacrifice your rights." NYC Liberal Sep 2015 #89

This is so repulsive and harmful to Sanders- that idiocy like this bettyellen Sep 2015 #90

It's all about the greater good! NuclearDem Sep 2015 #64

"Leave social issues to the states" jberryhill Sep 2015 #14

Neither side would want to... daleanime Sep 2015 #16

interestingly a religious *left* is building up: as the Baggers scream that the Pope's a Commie MisterP Sep 2015 #17

I thought it interesting and gave you a bump I don't know why no one else did rusty quoin Sep 2015 #18

No. No no no no no. No no no. NuclearDem Sep 2015 #19

I suppose that you mean the "straight white working left" Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #20

If it was only straight white working left and the religious right the candidate Jetboy Sep 2015 #21

What you suggest is the most vile and evil thing I have ever seen on DU. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #28

I'll put your mark in the collum of 1 state for the Xtian Fundies is not Jetboy Sep 2015 #29

No, it's not. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #30

Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #31

No, even if you could actually achieve that, it is not worth it. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #32

There's already many u more than one state- but you don't know or care. bettyellen Sep 2015 #84

Oh wow- handing us world peace on a silver platter are you? bettyellen Sep 2015 #96

+1000 nt LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #62

+about a million stage left Sep 2015 #82

So without LGBT and other minorities you can't win. That means you can't win. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #58

Sounds like it gollygee Sep 2015 #149

Here's where you fail: the first sentence. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #69

The whole thing is a fail gollygee Sep 2015 #150

Nowhere fast? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #151

I'm going to hope he's an anti-Sanders troll gollygee Sep 2015 #152

Poor people can't just move gollygee Sep 2015 #148

No. You know what? NO. IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #33

Vouchers could be created for people who have to move out of the 1 Xtian Jetboy Sep 2015 #34

Why would you fear the fundies? They're no threat to YOU. IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #36

The only hatred in this thread has been directed at me and not Jetboy Sep 2015 #40

Yeah. That's it. Play the victim card. IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #43

I'd be willing to give my life for no more global wars and Jetboy Sep 2015 #45

I do? IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #46

No global war and economic and social justice guaranteed in Jetboy Sep 2015 #48

You don't have the right to tell minorities what's "good enough" IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #49

Taliban Left? Back away from the keyboard, dudebro. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #65

Taliban left should be the end of this discussion. The person has no clue what they are randys1 Sep 2015 #209

So here's poor little lefty me trapped in a burning building with a bigoted rw type and Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #53

+1000 gollygee Sep 2015 #155

How brave of you. Meldread Sep 2015 #35

I strive to have the highest moral code and beleive in protecting the innocent Jetboy Sep 2015 #37

Yet you are willing to throw everybody else under the bus to get your way. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #39

I would be willing to dress in Drag and live in Alabama as the only Jetboy Sep 2015 #41

That is easy for you to say. Meldread Sep 2015 #44

Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #47

There is no social justice from Skidmore Sep 2015 #55

Every post you state is getting funnier than the last one. passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #170

I was crammed full of ideas in high school myself... IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #193

You are an idiot. Meldread Sep 2015 #42

Some of the smarter ones already have Warpy Sep 2015 #50

Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes Recursion Sep 2015 #51

No thanks. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #52

Thank you Erich. Good to see a Sanders supporter here. bettyellen Sep 2015 #94

Vague and faith based nonsense. If corps are in charge and they support our 'social agenda' why Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #56

I think you nailed it. Skidmore Sep 2015 #57

Your idea is based off of bad assumptions would destroy all progress made in the last 200 years LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #63

2016 Election Facility Inspector Sep 2015 #66

I'm recommending your post, because you've caught a lot of grief Ron Green Sep 2015 #68

I know, right?! IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #71

. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #72

Remember what Kane was clapping for? Ron Green Sep 2015 #78

Irrelevant. This is indicative of me clapping for that post. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #79

Is this better, Mr. Green? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #108

I would like to take a moment to welcome you to DU LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #73

Thank you IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #75

Bravo! Every Sander supporter should be all over this OP saying No! If they want our support they bettyellen Sep 2015 #85

I've tried to avoid any of the tension over Hillary vs. Bernie, but... IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #93

i agree with your thoughts. I'm seeing two prolific Sanders supporters here.... bettyellen Sep 2015 #95

Dangit, I do not want to kick this thread!! But this is such a fabulous post Number23 Sep 2015 #101

I want to kick it till every Sanders suporter gives it a HELL NO! bettyellen Sep 2015 #102

HELL NO gollygee Sep 2015 #153

I'm a Sanders supporter, stage left Sep 2015 #105

Thanks for that. I'm a bit afraid this kind of thinking has bled into some very pourus minds here... bettyellen Sep 2015 #106

you're welcome stage left Sep 2015 #111

I think you'd be doing them a favor reposting it there and asking the to weigh in.... bettyellen Sep 2015 #115

Good idea. stage left Sep 2015 #120

Jurors #3 and 7 speak nothing but the truth Number23 Sep 2015 #132

I thank you for alerting IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #130

The answer is: LOTS Number23 Sep 2015 #131

But they're doing us wrong for world peace! And ummm increased pay. bettyellen Sep 2015 #135

I don't know why he thinks this would mean an end to all war gollygee Sep 2015 #156

I think he wants to replace the Dem base with anybody except for us.... bettyellen Sep 2015 #162

thank you for your eloquence. stage left Sep 2015 #172

Thank you IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #194

The premise is ludicrous on its face pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #177

This Sanders supporter says Absolutey NO. historylovr Sep 2015 #122

Thanks! I yelled at an old friend for suggesting a similar coalition and I had to say.... bettyellen Sep 2015 #123

Irony gollygee Sep 2015 #158

Yep- makes it obvious he has given not one fuck about us, plans to continue that... bettyellen Sep 2015 #160

I certainly hope so. gollygee Sep 2015 #161

And this what I feared RandySF Sep 2015 #182

It's not as if the "back of the bus" concept hasn't already been floated here enough times. bettyellen Sep 2015 #195

I've seen far too much of it over the years... IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #196

The other thing he doesnt understand is the religious evangelical right that he says are randys1 Sep 2015 #211

Wow gollygee Sep 2015 #164

Excellent response! Solly Mack Sep 2015 #176

Love being lectured I'm somewhat closed minded about you giving away my human rights? bettyellen Sep 2015 #91

And the grief he has gotten stage left Sep 2015 #114

Holy Fuck gollygee Sep 2015 #142

But grandmother, what big eyes you have!!!! JoePhilly Sep 2015 #70

Not the religious right, exactly. The religious center-left. DirkGently Sep 2015 #74

You're advocating people change- he's arguing the party ditch SJWs for bettyellen Sep 2015 #103

Correct. I'm not for leaving social issues DirkGently Sep 2015 #109

Hows about.... AlbertCat Sep 2015 #76

Then they'd cease to be the Religious Right... JHB Sep 2015 #77

Doubt it. The Religious Right thrives on the assumption of the Prosperty Gospel. haele Sep 2015 #80

No, no, a thousand times no!!! stage left Sep 2015 #81

Post this in the Sander group- they seem like they have no comment in GD and I for one.... bettyellen Sep 2015 #87

What to create The United Theocratic Fascist States? Hortensis Sep 2015 #92

I lulz'ed KG Sep 2015 #97

WTF? greatauntoftriplets Sep 2015 #98

The problem with trying to compromise with the Religious Right, in a nutshell Electric Monk Sep 2015 #99

What would the impetus be for the religious right? Marr Sep 2015 #104

It's nothing but a big fuck you to women and POC..... bettyellen Sep 2015 #107

What evidence do you have that members of the religious right are hostile... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #110

Great Question. stage left Sep 2015 #113

The whole argument seems to be built on a faulty premise... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #117

No. Not a good idea at all. historylovr Sep 2015 #112

And to people of color. stage left Sep 2015 #119

Indeed they are, yes. historylovr Sep 2015 #121

Are you sure you're at the right site? zappaman Sep 2015 #116

i guess women and POC shouldn't be insulted by the "low info" crap.... bettyellen Sep 2015 #126

I wish it were that simple. IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #129

I thought this OP might be a parody at first, but I see it being discussed in the Sanders group and bettyellen Sep 2015 #133

I wish it were parody. IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #139

So you think the claim to just want world peace was for real? I don't know... bettyellen Sep 2015 #143

That I'm not sure of. IngridsLittleAngel Sep 2015 #171

The word that comes to my mind about the lack of outrage is more like disgusting. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2015 #140

Since this is obviously a strategy for Sanders outlined here, why don't you post it in his group? bettyellen Sep 2015 #118

This would require compromise and that is a very, very difficult thing bklyncowgirl Sep 2015 #124

Leave social issues to the states? States like.......Alabama Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2015 #125

this thread is a trip nt tishaLA Sep 2015 #127

I love that the OP got a hide on a post in their thread. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #128

The whole thread should have been hidden gollygee Sep 2015 #154

I guess 4 out of 3 thought this was a viable option. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #159

Plus there were two juries on his "Taliban Left" replies. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #163

I think somebody is scared and are looking for allies for their candidate. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #165

It's a perfect solution for those already angered by black and female voters! bettyellen Sep 2015 #167

It's a game to some people. They pretend to be altruistic and virtuous bettyellen Sep 2015 #166

"I'd like world peace, freedom from corporate rule and economic justice for all US Americans, betsuni Sep 2015 #134

OK, that made me laugh. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #137

Perfect reply! pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #144

lol! Excellent! Solly Mack Sep 2015 #169

Ha!I wonder which southern state he'd choose for the lucky one? stage left Sep 2015 #173

South Carolina. betsuni Sep 2015 #187

yes, I do. stage left Sep 2015 #198

"Corporations support...the Democrats (sic) social agenda"??????????? SINCE WHEN? WinkyDink Sep 2015 #136

They probably noticed some TV commercials geared toward all us or something.... bettyellen Sep 2015 #157

Let's get those who practice willful ignorance and believe in fairy tales to think critically? NightWatcher Sep 2015 #138

because the religious right doesn't work that way. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #168

it's completely indefensible. stage left Sep 2015 #174

It's called third-way and it is killing us. marym625 Sep 2015 #175

That would basically be a doomsday scenario for the Koch crowd LittleBlue Sep 2015 #178

I'm sorry but this the craziest thing I've read yet on here. RandySF Sep 2015 #180

I get the feeling your heart is in the right place, but this is a very Republicanesque idea. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #184

I'm going to rec this RandySF Sep 2015 #185

In a post some years ago, I once labeled this phenomenon as a "perverse rec" pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #189

I've been known to call it a Train Rec. Iggo Sep 2015 #200

They may be temporary 'allies' on issues like TPP which the tea party opposes too but pampango Sep 2015 #188

No F-ing Way The Religious have one goal and that is Theocracy. They will lie, cheat and even kill YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #190

What if unicorns started flying out of my butt? Rex Sep 2015 #197

The wings are all right. stage left Sep 2015 #199

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #201

Sign me up!!! Iggo Sep 2015 #202

I have nothing in common with those racist hating bigoted assholes onecaliberal Sep 2015 #203

My knee-jerk reaction is to snort with derision Android3.14 Sep 2015 #204

funny how some fake progressives are EAGER to trash the rights of minorities geek tragedy Sep 2015 #208

The "Religious right" are anti-freedom workinclasszero Sep 2015 #210