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Solly Mack

(96,940 posts)
23. That's just it...they wouldn't come for everyone's phone/cars
Wed May 23, 2012, 04:53 PM
May 2012

just those the government (federal/state/local) labels 'bad'...and in that way people can feel good about it. It's easier to accept bad things happening to bad people. They become accustomed to it. I recall how one of the excuses for torture being OK was because it was being done to "bad" people. I know of people who think rape only happens to "bad girls". That everyone in prison is guilty or they wouldn't have been convicted. It's all the same kind of thinking - there is just no way they'll end up in that kind of situation because they are just so good and bad things never happen to good people.

If the list of 'bad' people expands and increases over time, people are less likely to notice...or care.

Technology will continue to produce more and more ways of collecting information - and privacy concerns, along with Constitutional concerns, will grow. There's no stopping it.

That said, our liberty and our rights outweigh those advances. Where there is the potential for abuse, one can say with almost 100% certainty that such things will be abused.

Sadly, it's going to take abuses for a lot of people to see the danger in just blindly trusting in authority to not abuse its power.

Even more sad is - even with all the evidence over the course of history of authority abusing its power, people still want to believe it can't happen. ('here' or to them)

I don't know what the answer is but I do believe it has to start with protecting our rights first, last, and always.







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This deserves more attention! FiveGoodMen May 2012 #1
Aww, c'mon. They just want to keep us under surveillance to protect our freedom. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2012 #2
It's sort of like the Love Boat, only up in the sky EFerrari May 2012 #4
If privacy concerns are addressed, I would have no problem with this. randome May 2012 #3
Yeah, let's militarize the sky, no problem. EFerrari May 2012 #5
They already have helicopters and planes, too. Robb May 2012 #8
And tanks and LRADs, yes, I know. EFerrari May 2012 #12
As technology progresses, it will be used. randome May 2012 #9
You must be fucking kidding me. EFerrari May 2012 #11
They're not always resolved. Sometimes people die. randome May 2012 #13
Um, you can't forbid militarization WHILE you militarize the skies above American cities. EFerrari May 2012 #18
What is military about a remote control plane with a camera? These do not have weapons. stevenleser May 2012 #20
So, in your opinion, we should allow a weapons system into the skies above America EFerrari May 2012 #22
Its not a weapons system. It is a remote control plane with a camera. nt stevenleser May 2012 #29
A distinction without a difference. n/t EFerrari May 2012 #35
No matter how you slice it, it has no resemblance to a weapons system. stevenleser May 2012 #38
Of course it's a weapons system. EFerrari May 2012 #42
There is no gun on those ships. If there is no gun, there is nothing to load or unload. NOT a weapon stevenleser May 2012 #51
Texas is considering arming them with tear gas and rubber bullets. Luminous Animal May 2012 #56
THAT is a weapon. But only in those instances. stevenleser May 2012 #57
Using a drone to find the hypothetical missing forest child makes sense, Serve The Servants May 2012 #46
'The police' don't all think and act in lockstep. randome May 2012 #50
and also a strict prohibition against using bycatch. Gormy Cuss May 2012 #55
Someone's getting hella rich from these plans. TERRORISTS = YOU NEED DRONES! Buy from ME! Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #6
Yep. And this kind of sh!t is how our community police are coopted. EFerrari May 2012 #7
If it saves lives, it's money well spent. randome May 2012 #10
Isn't that what some people said about the nuclear bomb? EFerrari May 2012 #15
When I say the words 'not militarized' what I really mean is... randome May 2012 #17
Drones were developed by the military. They come militarized just as tanks do. n/t EFerrari May 2012 #19
Now you're being purposely obtuse. randome May 2012 #21
Precisely. Drones can be equipped with whatever its operators choose. EFerrari May 2012 #24
Lets get those restrictions nailed down and then we can begin to discuss this TheKentuckian May 2012 #32
Sounds good to me. randome May 2012 #33
I would support something like this Serve The Servants May 2012 #47
If something CAN be abused, it will. No doubt about that. randome May 2012 #53
Yeah, if nothing else we can trust the government SomethingFishy May 2012 #43
K&R Solly Mack May 2012 #14
I swear to god, if some morning the Pentagon came for our phones and cars, EFerrari May 2012 #16
That's just it...they wouldn't come for everyone's phone/cars Solly Mack May 2012 #23
There are people who don't get it until it happens to them. EFerrari May 2012 #27
Yes, the drones are coming. randome May 2012 #28
Piffle Solly Mack May 2012 #30
Oh, for Chrissakes. EFerrari May 2012 #41
I know! Hatchling May 2012 #25
Anything crapped out under the rubric of law enforcement and counter terrorism whatchamacallit May 2012 #26
They say "jump" and we say "how high?" EFerrari May 2012 #39
Ten years of living under the insidious Patriot Act have left the majority of Americans accepting sad sally May 2012 #31
I hate this shit. Hell Hath No Fury May 2012 #34
Me, too, and it seems to be accelerating. EFerrari May 2012 #37
Every day, one more step. woo me with science May 2012 #36
The only way to counter this is local and that may not even work EFerrari May 2012 #40
Judging from this thread, America is awake SomethingFishy May 2012 #45
Kick woo me with science May 2012 #48
The DHS is a crony organization who's only purpose is to justify the "security state". Dawson Leery May 2012 #44
K&R... KoKo May 2012 #49
Kick woo me with science May 2012 #52
And this is BEFORE the election! Just imagine afterwards! 50 shades of grey May 2012 #54
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