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DaveT

(687 posts)
24. American conservatives
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 09:39 PM
Sep 2015

Stopped being conservative with Ronald Reagan and supply side economics. Instead of adhering to skepticism about all the various utopian schemes of dreamers, the GOP became the font of a new Utopian Dream -- the Free Market.

Get the government off America's back and we will have Morning in America forevermore.

Instead of a principled philosophy concerned with Original Sin and the baseness of human nature, today's "conservative" is a radical and a purist.

This change in right wing philosophy came about when clever political specialists realized that the Republicans never won a national election with their bitching about Deficit Spending. So they hoked up what David Stockman called a Trojan Horse -- the "theory" of tax cuts unleashing America from bonds if liberalism.

Bad economics and worse public policy -- but great politics for a generation.

Three decades later they have cut taxes and reduced regulation beyond any rational measure. The result has not been Utopia. More like hell.

The Pope, a spokesperson for getting into heaven himself, can spot a rival religion from a mile off. For whatever reservations one may have with The Papacy, at least the Catholics don't claim that you can live in heaven before you're dead.

Environmental degradation and predatory capitalism hifiguy Sep 2015 #1
And the fact that what humans decide to do now deeply affects the planet means there is no excuse applegrove Sep 2015 #2
Right on! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #26
The Pope is a real Christian. The politicians are just using it as they please. Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #46
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #3
Obvious troll is incredibly obvious. hifiguy Sep 2015 #4
Yeah, didn't keep the mask on for even one post. nt pnwmom Sep 2015 #5
They ain't making trolls like they used to. hifiguy Sep 2015 #6
yeah, they're getting dumber and dumber pnwmom Sep 2015 #8
Actually I think they are getting smarter. And refusing to allow Bernie Sanders supporters to say applegrove Sep 2015 #14
Dam. I always miss trolls when they respond to my OPs. This one was gone quick. applegrove Sep 2015 #7
Thanks for your OP! I meant to reply right away, but I got distracted pnwmom Sep 2015 #9
Thank you. applegrove Sep 2015 #11
I alerted and it was - poof! - vaporized instantly. hifiguy Sep 2015 #10
Thanks. applegrove Sep 2015 #12
they can't diss him the way they diss Democrats Skittles Sep 2015 #13
They are, though. hifiguy Sep 2015 #15
fans of the Pope are more inclined to listen to the Pope than ignorant repukes Skittles Sep 2015 #16
I heard today on NPR.... zentrum Sep 2015 #18
And it is the Jesus factor too. Pope Francis is a Jesuit-Society of Jesus. RW and Dominionist DhhD Sep 2015 #25
people wonder why there is a statue of limitations on sex abuse crimes Skittles Sep 2015 #45
If "subtle inducements" means tax breaks for corporations, that won't work either starroute Sep 2015 #17
People across the country in Canada are evolving on their support of oil as it is suddenly really applegrove Sep 2015 #19
Capitalism is not a form of self-governance. Beartracks Sep 2015 #20
Exactly. That is a good analogy. applegrove Sep 2015 #21
An excellent post! nt hifiguy Sep 2015 #35
Here We Go Again? NonMetro Sep 2015 #22
The tide on the environment is turning. And the pope is a part of that. So are thoughtful articles applegrove Sep 2015 #23
Sure, But... NonMetro Sep 2015 #44
American conservatives DaveT Sep 2015 #24
+1! That is one hell of a post, DaveT. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #27
Yes, instead of a Utopia, BuelahWitch Sep 2015 #33
Bravo! Got it in one. hifiguy Sep 2015 #36
Salon has to stop with the clickbait headlines oberliner Sep 2015 #28
It is a great meme that we humans have so much technology that alters applegrove Sep 2015 #29
i did not click on it restorefreedom Sep 2015 #30
Headline makes you click to find the "real reason" instead of identifying it as climate change oberliner Sep 2015 #31
just another reason restorefreedom Sep 2015 #32
It is novel to describe man and technology has having applegrove Sep 2015 #38
Agreed oberliner Sep 2015 #39
You know why the Pope scares the bejeezus out of me? pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #34
Cute. applegrove Sep 2015 #37
There's a local teabagger here who had some "words of wisdom" on Francis 47of74 Sep 2015 #40
Well written. This Professor Rubin I'll have to check out. mmonk Sep 2015 #41
that's not the biggie imho stupidicus Sep 2015 #42
Scares the hell out of DNC elite as well... a message about inequality and injustice might catch on whereisjustice Sep 2015 #43
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