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Bradley Manning: A Hero, Not a Traitorby Marjorie Cohn
Marjorie Cohn, a professor at Thomas Jefferson School of Law and past President of the National Lawyers Guild, is the deputy secretary general for external communications of the International Association of Democratic Lawyers, and the U.S. representative to the executive committee of the American Association of Jurists.
December 25, 2011
Manning wrote: If you had free reign over classified networks and you saw incredible things, awful things things that belonged in the public domain, and not on some server stored in a dark room in Washington DC what would you do? God knows what happens now. Hopefully worldwide discussion, debates, and reforms I want people to see the truth because without information, you cannot make informed decisions as a public.
The U.S. government considers Manning one of Americas most dangerous traitors. Months ago, Obama spoke of Manning as if he had been proved guilty, saying, he broke the law. But Manning has not been tried, and is presumed innocent in the eyes of the law. If Manning had committed war crimes instead of exposing them, he would be a free man today.
Besides helping to end the Iraq war, the leaked cables helped spark the Arab Spring. When people in Tunisia read cables revealing corruption by the ruling family there, they took to the streets.
If Manning did what he is accused of doing, he should not be tried as a criminal. He should be hailed as a national hero, much like Daniel Ellsberg, whose release of the Pentagon Papers helped to expose the governments lies and end the Vietnam War.
Read the full article at:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/12/25
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History Will Judge Bradley Manning And Laud Him For Telling The Truth
A former career intelligence officer and longtime critic of America's overseas debacles compares Bradley Manning to America's greatest patriots.
By Ray McGovern
Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern is co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity.
December 21, 2011
Its also instructive to see how selective prosecutions work in Official Washington. Manning may face life imprisonment for exposing the slaughter of civilians and other serious crimes (as well as for revealing the absurd over-classification of U.S. government documents).
However, when President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney confess that they ordered waterboarding and other acts that have long been regarded as illegal torture, they and their subordinates are spared prosecution, presumably because to do otherwise would stir up a political mess.
Suddenly, clear violations of the law must be set aside as being outweighed by larger national considerations, i.e. political comity in Washington. But no such balancing act is available to spare Pvt. Manning possible life imprisonment for truth-telling, even when many experts believe much good has come from the disclosures, including inspiration for the Arab Springs ouster of dictators whose brutality and corruption were frankly described in the WikiLeaks cables.
Daniel Ellsberg has called Bradley Manning a hero, and thats what he is. We need to find ways to tell the American people the full story. These days, they are not going to get the whole truth (or anything close to it) from the New York Times.
Read the full article at:
http://www.alternet.org/story/153539/history_will_judge_bradley_manning_and_laud_him_for_telling_the_truth/?page=entire
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In the Year of the Protester, Bradley Manning is the Great Dissenter
by Davin O'Dwyer
December 24, 2011
There are many lessons to be learned from the Manning case, but the most pertinent is the one that we are conditioned to most assiduously ignore, however instinctively we realize it to be true: secrecy tends to be corrosive to those who wield it, and unchecked secrecy, the sort of secrecy that Manning so bravely attempted to challenge, is always a sign that the corrosion itself is whats being kept secret.
We might hope that a US president who convinced so many that he stood for change might appreciate someone who tried to engender some real change, but its unlikely that Mannings principled bravery will be recognized and rewarded until after he has spent many years and maybe decades in prison.
Speaking to the press on Thursday, Ellsberg said, Bradley Manning no more deserves to face charges of treason than I did. He no more deserves to be called a traitor than I do, because I am not.
Mannings current isolation emphasizes the bravest aspect of his protest: he did it on his own. He didnt have a crowd wearing Guy Fawkes masks for support or an occupied square full of tents to call home. When the history of these unsettled times comes to be written, Mannings lonely protest might well be seen as the most important of all.
Read the full article at:
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2011/1224/1224309458306.html

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"If Manning had committed war crimes instead of exposing them, he would be a free man today."
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
#13
Yes, he could have done that. But he did report to his superior officer, the fact that detainees
sabrina 1
Dec 2011
#136
"But do you think the material would ever have been made public had he done that?"
cstanleytech
Dec 2011
#143
I think we do know. The actions of this government when it comes to war crimes, tells us what
sabrina 1
Dec 2011
#153
Manning admits he released classified information into the public domain. That is against the law.
MjolnirTime
Dec 2011
#2
And do you also believe that Daniel Ellsberg was a traitor? How many years do you think
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
#7
So if Manning released the video of U.S. troops gunning down civilians what lives were endangered?
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
#23
It was the tens of thousand of others things he never bothered to screen that concern me.
hack89
Dec 2011
#27
Let's hope that many others follow Manning and Ellsberg's example of courage, patriotism and heroism
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
#62
No. Nixon sought prior restraint but did not prosecute the Times for publishing.
Luminous Animal
Dec 2011
#116
Lol, Manning is an editor and publisher of a multiple award-winning International News Organization.
sabrina 1
Dec 2011
#129
And so will the NYT, the Washington Post, The Guardian and all other newspapers
sabrina 1
Dec 2011
#178
Well, if you ignore the toppling of dictators, eg, he 'has accomplished nothing'.
sabrina 1
Dec 2011
#198
He may not have been a blip on your conscience, but he most certainly has been
sabrina 1
Dec 2011
#223
Wikileaks donated a paltry 15k, while it raked in millions, according to WAU Holland.
msanthrope
Dec 2011
#195
I blame Wikileaks, for taking in millions, but only donating 15k to Manning.
msanthrope
Dec 2011
#221
Kindly cite the paid staff of Wikileaks figure? Because the WAU Holland Report
msanthrope
Dec 2011
#224
He stole 260,000 messages - none of which had anything to do with his job as a low level analyst.
hack89
Dec 2011
#71
he stole over 250k cables to see if he could find a gotcha. not the same. at all. or kinda. nt
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#40
what is confusing. 250k cable, clueless what is in them. gave to someone else
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#94
He clearly states in the chat logs why he decided to blow the whistle & compile
Luminous Animal
Dec 2011
#117
Not 250, 250 thousand cables. Trust me, he did not read each of them before he released
SlimJimmy
Dec 2011
#187
of course he didnt. but we are going to pretend he read them all, and felt putin as alpha male so
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#191
I'm not going to pretend that he vetted 250k in material. Others can make that argument if they
SlimJimmy
Dec 2011
#218
Sorry, I left off the "K". I know it is 250,000 and I believe that he read enough
Luminous Animal
Dec 2011
#199
Unless he vetted them all before he released them, he didn't exercise due dilligence.
SlimJimmy
Dec 2011
#207
That's not the point. By not vetting the material, he didn't know for certain what he was releasing
SlimJimmy
Dec 2011
#217
If you don't take the trouble to find out the facts, true, then there would be no point in arguing.
sabrina 1
Dec 2011
#138
he did not know that was in over 250K cables. that is bullshit. now, regardless of the rest you
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#141
Yes, he did and he spoke about what was in them on the chat logs. So, I'm afraid you are wrong.
sabrina 1
Dec 2011
#157
so, he did not know what was in them, general feel and expressed what he felt would be found. right
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#158
Did you read my post? Yes, he did know what was in them. He said so and described accurately
sabrina 1
Dec 2011
#161
yes i have. i have read the facts. not story selling to create him as a hero. nt
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#165
Then can you present the facts, because what you have presented so far is so removed from the
sabrina 1
Dec 2011
#172
the only fact i have supplied is he did not KNOW what was in EVERY ONE of those 250k cables.
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#177
And that is not a fact. Please provide something to back it up. You have repeated it
sabrina 1
Dec 2011
#180
ok, so manning knew how important and criminal it was telling world putin an alpha male
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#190
that is your spin sabrina. always the spin..... you know he didnt read over 250k cables
seabeyond
Dec 2011
#204
Yes, a file dump, pure and simple. Saying anything else is being disingenuous to the extreme.
SlimJimmy
Dec 2011
#208
Government officials will decide what they will permit the public to know under the new transparency
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
#66
And just what did he think Wikileaks was going to do with it? Besides making it public that is?
hack89
Dec 2011
#37
Wikileaks record is better than the government's. Do you trust the government?
EFerrari
Dec 2011
#173
Perhaps - in any case Manning will be in jail for a long time and that is a good thing. nt
hack89
Dec 2011
#188
We need to know the truth and the people should be cleared to know the truth.
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
#68
"Intelligence agencies"? Do you include government spy agencies that violate our civil liberties?
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
#99
If I call him a hero, does that mean I can be locked up too for 'supporting terrorism'?
Electric Monk
Dec 2011
#9
And will you please post the oath to the military commanders that Manning took?
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
#102
If you believe that it's ok to lie to people to avoid unrest, he's a traitor
cowcommander
Dec 2011
#18
Sadly, whistleblowing on murderers is considered a crime by this administration.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Dec 2011
#39
I stopped having Heroes a long time ago....but until Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Woo and
Pachamama
Dec 2011
#41
I believe its on the Greatest Page because this is "The Democratic" Underground...
Pachamama
Dec 2011
#49
I think he's still looking for an apostrophe for the contraction in his screen name
DisgustipatedinCA
Dec 2011
#227
The post was taken off the Greatest Page due to your protest I assume.
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
#72
If there were no consequences for doing what was right, he would not be hero.
sabrina 1
Dec 2011
#59
If you are ordered to involve yourself in the commission of a crime that violated
sabrina 1
Dec 2011
#60
If these people took personal risks in order to leak evidence of war crimes..
girl gone mad
Dec 2011
#104
Maybe he felt he couldnt trust the Inspector General? Other than that I am
cstanleytech
Dec 2011
#114
He could have gone to any member of Congress - he could have by-passed the military completely. nt
hack89
Dec 2011
#115
But Ellsberg tried first. Do you think Kucinich or Sanders would have turned Manning away?
hack89
Dec 2011
#127
"He could have gone to any member of Congress" Sure. Anyone. Leiberman for example.
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
#135
You think Kucinich or Sanders would have turned Manning away? They would cover up war crimes?
hack89
Dec 2011
#140
Well, my view of him is tied to the Bush era war crimes. During that time many people wished
sabrina 1
Dec 2011
#134
Rosa Parks, and many others, "broke the law" when other means were available.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Dec 2011
#150
No, I do not. The Bush administration tried to make that claim, that their intent was good so
sabrina 1
Dec 2011
#151
Well, breaking bad laws, such as Rosa Parks did (and I'm sure there were people who condemned
sabrina 1
Dec 2011
#154
He certainly isn't. The federal government is trying to put him in prison for life!
Better Believe It
Dec 2011
#162
Just when I thought your comments saying the woman that Manning punched "deserved it"
Number23
Dec 2011
#164
Hey, dont yell at me instead yell at the ones trying to claim he is like her.
cstanleytech
Dec 2011
#174
The video of the helicopter attack? Well ok I suppose I could see mitigating circumstances
cstanleytech
Dec 2011
#179
Not my hero. Boy the "hero bar" is awful low if Manning's actions can be considered "heroic". n/t
cherokeeprogressive
Dec 2011
#146
WHAT???? How was he forced to join the military???? Please explain this? nt
msanthrope
Dec 2011
#194