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LynneSin

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26. It's hard to change the world if we only work with those who agree 100% with us.

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 04:39 PM

Sep 2015

If anything the Pope spoke very little about Abortion or Marriage Equality. Maybe his opinion is the exact opposite of mine but they hardly seem like high priorities in his book on these issues. I know they are important issues to many people here at DU so I hope people are not thinking that I feel they are low priority but I do know we have other people out there fighting hard for those issues too.

But I do know this, sometimes the first step in changing someone's mind on an issue is getting them to realize that their negative opinion of that issue isn't a high priority. And the Pope has done a few things to show that like allowing forgiveness for those who have had abortions and demoting that high ranking hardline Anti-LGBT priest.

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So what if he met Kim Davis. Pope met many people while in the US that I personally do not like [View all] LynneSin Sep 2015 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author BigDemVoter Sep 2015 #1

Look, he didn't ask to meet her LynneSin Sep 2015 #7

So it's that easy to get a meeting with the Pope? nt geek tragedy Sep 2015 #36

I heard that the vatican arranged for this meeting. randys1 Sep 2015 #51

It is clear from his only public statement that he doesn't know the circumstances pnwmom Sep 2015 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author BigDemVoter Sep 2015 #29

Does he even know who she is? Retrograde Sep 2015 #2

why else would he meet her ? it's not like she represents any of the places JI7 Sep 2015 #4

Because someone brought her along as a guest? LynneSin Sep 2015 #10

I think it was that stupid family group focus on the family or something that did this. hollysmom Sep 2015 #13

It would be likely that she was introduced by Tony Perkins, who just gave her an award that day Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #18

He met her, if he did, because some underling selected her as part of a group pnwmom Sep 2015 #21

he went out of his way to meet her JI7 Sep 2015 #3

So did Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz... yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #5

Fidel Castro's no longer the president of Cuba and yet he met with him. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2015 #6

Fidel Castro is a major figure and still has influence JI7 Sep 2015 #12

He did not go out of his way to meet her. Someone brought her to him LynneSin Sep 2015 #8

Exactly. nt Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2015 #11

You don't know that... joeybee12 Sep 2015 #14

His public statement was that he didn't know the details of her situation. pnwmom Sep 2015 #23

Yeah right... joeybee12 Sep 2015 #38

who brought her to him ? JI7 Sep 2015 #17

Someone who's a lot more fluent in English than he is. pnwmom Sep 2015 #28

I am inclined to agree with you. Xyzse Sep 2015 #9

The Dalai Lama met with George Bush. Gregorian Sep 2015 #15

bush was president. JI7 Sep 2015 #16

Yes, we don't have to agree with people 100% treestar Sep 2015 #19

It's hard to change the world if we only work with those who agree 100% with us. LynneSin Sep 2015 #26

And yet the actions of Francis and the Vatican are not as you suggest at all. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #34

It's ridiculous arguing with these people... joeybee12 Sep 2015 #43

He was asked to visit a home for LGBT youth nichomachus Sep 2015 #22

She is only claiming a 10 minute meeting at his residence. He would have needed much more time pnwmom Sep 2015 #24

Yeah, whatever. He's still a bigot. n/t nichomachus Sep 2015 #25

Oh, goody, more apologists for this anti-gay bigot. Arugula Latte Sep 2015 #31

No LGBT Catholic groups or voices were allowed at the Meeting of Families. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #32

And guess what, in Philly the meeting on homosexuality and the church allowed ONLY ONE joeybee12 Sep 2015 #39

This is important. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #27

Thread winner! nt LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #37

He was also asked to visit the Katherine Drexel shrine in Philly LynneSin Sep 2015 #49

But he did make time for Kim Davis...what does that tell you? (nt) LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #52

He made time for John Boehner too LynneSin Sep 2015 #55

Its interesting to see the twisting of logic on display here, lots of assertions.... Humanist_Activist Sep 2015 #30

Conflicted Polly Hennessey Sep 2015 #33

Hell I had about a dozen Catholic items given to me over the weekend in Philly LynneSin Sep 2015 #50

a private meeting with the pope is reserved for a very select few. geek tragedy Sep 2015 #35

Or . . . pnwmom Sep 2015 #40

the Pope is their boss, not the other way around geek tragedy Sep 2015 #41

Do you really think he personally micromanaged every minute of that week? pnwmom Sep 2015 #44

the pope is a shrewd politican--as all popes are--and has politically savvy advisers and staffers geek tragedy Sep 2015 #45

The NYTimes characterized their non-denial as a confirmation. pnwmom Sep 2015 #46

I see you're twisting yourself in pretzels to defend Pope Bigot. Arugula Latte Sep 2015 #48

the less kim davis and her attornies say about hopemountain Sep 2015 #42

Wait, I thought the Talibornagains didn't like this socialist/leftist/commie/liberal pope. tanyev Sep 2015 #47

You are behind the times.... Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #53

I personally don't give a rat's ass if pope met with the devil himself. lonestarnot Sep 2015 #54