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jtuck004

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24. Over the course of my lifetime I have yet to see an attempt at a "solution". Much was
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 07:10 PM
Sep 2015

nothing more than trying to curry favor or quiet dissent, while benefits went to someone else. Many "improvements" aren't. Most of the efforts were undertaken with the best of intentions, but never with the idea of actually helping restore power to the workers.

In that quote she was just noting that broke is something that can be fixed. But the person offering to "fix" it might be wanting to fix something else. Cheaper than actually addressing the cause, and they still get credit for trying.

Prior to 1925 or so there was work at real solutions, by people who thought working folk needed to control the assets. That has never been more true, but they were beaten, tortured, jailed, murdered. Because they really were a threat to capitalists/bank$ters/rentiers, their anti-war and pro-labor stance was used against them and they were they were painted with the socialism/communist label (even though there is documentation that they had no interest in communism, and a letter from a communist recruiter stating that the IWW couldn't be worked with. lol. That was kind of the point.

But people got tired, some were co-opted, and the ones who were left quit fighting. Their teaching and that point of view was written out of our history, and such training as they did is now considered at least subversive, if not terrorism. By comparison what we are taught now is nearer servitude than freedom, and we have let the business world define it as such. A lie of omission.

People need opportunity, they want to work because work is an expression of what we do. FDR stood up and said it, and given the choice, nearly any human being will. But we let work get re-defined as making money for some $wine (no offense to pigs) instead of doing the things that need to be done, that MEAN something to us. (For example, saving the freaking planet comes to mind, which no employer is, perhaps, ever gonna do, as stupid as that sounds. Would make a dilly of a government training and employment program, however. We need an investment of tens of trillions of dollars just to figure out a new way forward. Anything less will just be busy work).

It might be that we have let things go so far now that the best one can do is band together with neighbors and help themselves. There have been several times when this country could have gone down a different path, but here we are. Along the path we are traveling I see nothing in the way of a future where we have 2.3 million people applying for 368 jobs doing security or serving coffee. Wouldn't be the first time.




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Absolutely. cheapdate Sep 2015 #1
Hell yes.... daleanime Sep 2015 #2
I have acquaintances co-living with three generations of "broke" family. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2015 #3
I used to think that... Adrahil Sep 2015 #6
If your sister's only problem is being broke, an extra $20 ought to do the trick. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2015 #7
But such dirge is as bullshit as Alger glurge whatthehey Sep 2015 #9
It's not as simple as that. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2015 #10
And if he acts as in the post I responded to, he will stay poor whatthehey Sep 2015 #12
Doing stupid shit has consequences mythology Sep 2015 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #20
I can just tell you my experience. Adrahil Sep 2015 #19
Over the course of my lifetime I have yet to see an attempt at a "solution". Much was jtuck004 Sep 2015 #24
. AuntPatsy Sep 2015 #4
Very Pollyanna. Perhaps if one had a Momma like Gregory's such a philosophy snagglepuss Sep 2015 #5
John Steinbeck said it best lumberjack_jeff Sep 2015 #8
omg that is bang on. snagglepuss Sep 2015 #13
My entire family considered themselves to lucky to have jwirr Sep 2015 #11
Real poverty is not having any family puzzledeagle Sep 2015 #15
Naw. Real poverty is going to your job washing dishes after Jr high classes to help pay the mortgage REP Sep 2015 #16
I was ten years old when I started cleaning a house for a jwirr Sep 2015 #18
My mother ate a lot of roof rabbit during her childhood REP Sep 2015 #21
I guess it is all in the outlook. I would have gotten out of jwirr Sep 2015 #23
Exactly. We have two young people in our family who are jwirr Sep 2015 #17
The game is rigged. PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #22
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