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Igel

(37,433 posts)
40. Ill formed question.
Wed May 23, 2012, 09:13 PM
May 2012

"An apple is a fruit" is a nice definition. "A cucumber is green" assigns an attribute to an object (I've seen yellow lemon cukes and white cukes, of course).

But a word like "obscene" (or "offensive&quot is a judgment and requires a perceiver. You can't just say something is obscene--the person engaging in judgment is always present in the context.

And you can't just say "Do people think the F word is too obscene for public use?" On the one hand there's no unitary "people" that does the judging. On the other hand, it's trivially true--all that's required, strictly speaking, is to find two people who think it's obscene. Not a prob.

Yes, there are still socially defined communities of speakers who find the F word offensive and obscene.

Even that's weak. Many people find it obscene in some contexts and not others. Different subgroups of people will disagree where the line's to be drawn.

Taboo words are like that. Take the "N" word. I know people who use it daily and nobody cares; I know people who use it and are or would be treated as pariahs. Who are you? Where are you? Who are you talking to? About what? (Etc., etc., etc.)

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i would have chosen offensive opposed to obscene. nt seabeyond May 2012 #1
It depends. ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #2
It is damn near my favorite word. Solly Mack May 2012 #3
It shows a lack of intelligence IMO. A person that does not know the proper noun, adjective or appleannie1 May 2012 #4
Used to agree but I fucking well got over that. GoneOffShore May 2012 #6
+1 GObamaGO May 2012 #10
I have a high IQ and an excellent vocabulary but I use it freely. Gidney N Cloyd May 2012 #11
I do too and I use it quite deliberately lunatica May 2012 #23
because "fucking car" says one hell of a lot more than any other adjective you can name. CBGLuthier May 2012 #22
Like "fucking, you know?" Gman May 2012 #32
Disagree RedCappedBandit May 2012 #34
oh SNAP! frylock May 2012 #37
My teenage relatives on fb use it too often. libinnyandia May 2012 #5
Depends. Robb May 2012 #7
. Go Vols May 2012 #8
That's fucking funny! liberaltrucker May 2012 #21
It's fucking therapeutic! kentauros May 2012 #39
Fuck it. n/t ellisonz May 2012 #9
Fascism?...... nt Guy Whitey Corngood May 2012 #12
"Fuck" is so versatile. RC May 2012 #13
Fuck no. Republican is a much dirtier word. leveymg May 2012 #14
Makes me thik of this : 99Forever May 2012 #15
Obscene No. SoutherDem May 2012 #16
ignorance on display is the new mantra nt msongs May 2012 #17
My Mom once scolded me, Special Prosciuto May 2012 #18
It's childish and frequent use is indicative of a poor vocabulary. Johnny Rico May 2012 #19
When I use it, it sounds right Iggo May 2012 #20
It's my favorite word... one_voice May 2012 #24
Fuck No. man4allcats May 2012 #25
Too many people over use it because they've got little else to say ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #26
A word that I use liberally -- Hell Hath No Fury May 2012 #27
George Carlin opines HarveyDarkey May 2012 #28
I use it all the time but I use it at home Raine May 2012 #29
Profanity is the crutch Gman May 2012 #30
the word "fuck" should be situational in nature. provis99 May 2012 #31
Obscene ... depending on how it is used ... etherealtruth May 2012 #33
Well, I probably wouldn't wear it on a t-shirt RedCappedBandit May 2012 #35
I'm not keen at suggesting that appropriate for wearing to school be the standard for all Bluenorthwest May 2012 #36
Hay, I'm over fifty, kentauros May 2012 #38
Ill formed question. Igel May 2012 #40
I think it portrays low social class .... oldhippie May 2012 #41
I have always found the concept of "obscene" words to be preposterous. Comrade_McKenzie May 2012 #42
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