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HiPointDem

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18. I linked a social security administration page with the history of SS disability benefits -- which,
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:20 AM
May 2012

unlike yourself, actually read.

Much of the conceptual work that underpinned Social Security Disability Insurance took place in the 1930's and early 1940's.

Passage of the measure did not occur until the 1950's. The delay reflected the understandable lack of attention to domestic policy during the years of World War II and the reality that public assistance paid higher benefits and reached more people than did Social Security between 1935 and 1950.

Social Security Disability Insurance did not receive serious attention from Congress until the Committee on Ways and Means held hearings on this topic, and other topics related to Social Security, in 1949... the Committee included a disability insurance program in the bill that the House of Representatives passed in 1949. The Senate chose to emphasize rehabilitation, rather than cash benefits, and did not include disability insurance in its version of the Social Security bill that was passed in 1950. The House receded in conference, and as a compromise measure Congress adopted a new public assistance category, Aid to the Permanently and Totally Disabled... A series of incremental, compromise laws in 1952 and 1954 paved the way for the final passage of SSDI in 1956.

SS has been paying disability in some form since 1949 and in full form since 1956. Disability insurance was included in the original conceptualization and discussion of SS.

SS taxes have increased to cover SSD -- one of the reasons we now pay 6.2% instead of 1%. You're probably also not aware of the SS benefits that have been *cut back* or cut altogether since the 70s, either.

It takes TEN YEARS of work to vest in SS. You may call it a "pittance," I don't.

Assuming that you were born after 1928, you need 40 quarters, or 10 years of work and associated payment of Social Security taxes.

http://www.retirementincomevisions.com/retirement-income-visions/2011/03/your-social-security-retirement-asset-part-3-of-3.html

Yes, you can get disability if you've paid enough into the system to become vested. If you think that's problematic, you don't understand how insurance works.

And the "young people" you talk about who are getting disability are mostly getting SSI, i.e. "welfare" paid out of general revenues, not out of Social Security taxes. Because if you start working at 18 you have to be at least 28 to be vested.

It's really pompous to call people "grasshopper" and tell them they're "unwise" and "incorrect" when it's clear you don't know much about the history of the program or how it works.



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Bingo!!!!! Swede Atlanta May 2012 #1
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Most of our folks retire around 60 exboyfil May 2012 #2
The portion of people over 60 or 65 with arthritis, a history of back injuries, etc. is very high. JDPriestly May 2012 #6
we have a good friend who was forced to retire at age 62. He was a plumber for over 38 years CTyankee May 2012 #20
I tried to hire someone around 70 last year MannyGoldstein May 2012 #3
Have those 2 been with your company for a while? JDPriestly May 2012 #7
One about 6 years. The other I don't know how long. MannyGoldstein May 2012 #10
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Actually, they can touch him if he isn't working. But assuming your story is true, JDPriestly May 2012 #5
Of course they can "touch him" if he's not doing the work. Age is no protection for SharonAnn May 2012 #13
good question Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #9
Right - and the number of retirement aged people is just getting dana_b May 2012 #11
"They" say that there aren't enuf younger workers to fill the jobs in the future.` Honeycombe8 May 2012 #12
Please give a link to your source on Social Security running out of money in ten years. JDPriestly May 2012 #14
Here you go. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #17
In 2033, the youngest baby boomer will be 69 Major Nikon May 2012 #19
Soc Sec will start ridding itself of assets in 2020 to pay benefits. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #21
As it should Major Nikon May 2012 #22
social security is not paying things it was never set up for, like disability for younger people. HiPointDem May 2012 #15
Sorry, Grasshopper. You are unwise....and incorrect. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #16
I linked a social security administration page with the history of SS disability benefits -- which, HiPointDem May 2012 #18
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