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discntnt_irny_srcsm

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82. And speaking of...

Sat Oct 3, 2015, 11:23 AM

Oct 2015

...Thomas Jefferson: "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes..."

Could you please articulate more on "...the basic right of all men to live in a society where one does not fear their neighbor..."?

I would say that's more of a goal for society and government to work toward rather than describing it as right. Such a right would certainly be unattainable.
Maybe your goal is to just find a belief system on which to conveniently lay the blame.

I believe wise and and cautious conduct in things which could prove harmful is a burden to be shared by both buyers and sellers. Working to enlighten folks to realities and dangers can only enhance their ability to make a sound assessment of their own circumstances thus aiding their decisions. Safety considerations should be on everyone's mind 24/7.

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The Federal government needs to confiscate all guns [View all] chalmers Oct 2015 OP

There is a pesky thing called the 2nd Amendment. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #1

Lol, ok, how do you determine that? Nt Logical Oct 2015 #3

The same way we determine people aren't robbers and rapists. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #27

We wait LynnTTT Oct 2015 #77

We wait Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #80

... Major Nikon Oct 2015 #75

Also stomping all over the 4th during that confiscation... TipTok Oct 2015 #14

Don't forget about the Fifth (compensation) and Fourteenth (due process). nt branford Oct 2015 #53

I'm not sure that controllers TeddyR Oct 2015 #60

I had a realization earlier... TipTok Oct 2015 #71

No If it became illegal, probable cause would exist. treestar Oct 2015 #85

That is just creepy... TipTok Oct 2015 #98

Wow, not put much thought into this i assume. Nt Logical Oct 2015 #2

Send guys with guns to confiscate all guns. Throd Oct 2015 #4

I see a future in giant C-arms ileus Oct 2015 #54

Consider the logistics and probability of that happening. NightWatcher Oct 2015 #5

It is really loose talk like that kills any chance at meaningful gun control. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #9

+ 1 Billion!! lancer78 Oct 2015 #39

Considering her history her thoughts were understandable but they aren't helpful. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #48

Except hers of course... TipTok Oct 2015 #99

I'm wondering if the OP actually belongs here or is stirring up shit. n/t X_Digger Oct 2015 #45

Yep, could be. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2015 #56

+1 DashOneBravo Oct 2015 #83

Works for me. ananda Oct 2015 #6

Automatic weapons were restricted in 1986 Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #30

The restrictions started in 1934 with the passage of the NFA. nt branford Oct 2015 #55

We know what poster meant by "auto." The gun nomenclature game is tiring. Hoyt Oct 2015 #57

Legally and functionally there's a big difference between automatic and semi-automatic firearms. branford Oct 2015 #61

Take it up with Colt. In the meantime, i'm sure your gun clients appreciate Hoyt Oct 2015 #62

My practice doesn't involve firearms and related law. branford Oct 2015 #65

OK, you defend Zimmermans too. Little difference. Hoyt Oct 2015 #68

No, my opinion of Zimmerman is quite poor. branford Oct 2015 #70

And further measures HassleCat Oct 2015 #7

Sorry, this type of reasoning - too extremes packman Oct 2015 #25

Speaking of extreme HassleCat Oct 2015 #28

"Wildly unconstitutional" packman Oct 2015 #33

Unless you believe the Constitution is "Just a God-damned piece of paper" NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #37

Don't interpret my posts with the statements of an idiot packman Oct 2015 #40

Unless being a member of the ACLU is considered extremist... NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #42

Exactly how many times TeddyR Oct 2015 #51

And your point? packman Oct 2015 #69

And speaking of... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #82

No. jwirr Oct 2015 #8

Confiscation won't remove all the guns from civilian hands. Taitertots Oct 2015 #10

Quite true, and all it would do is create a lucrative black market. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2015 #58

Been there done that... LeftyChristian Oct 2015 #11

LOL you get that from NRA talking points? chalmers Oct 2015 #13

Do you dispute these assertions? philosslayer Oct 2015 #21

After a little research treestar Oct 2015 #88

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. LeftyChristian Oct 2015 #22

LOL, did you get that from the Brady Bunch org. talking points? GGJohn Oct 2015 #66

Jesus, why are you even posting on the DU? packman Oct 2015 #34

Absolute Solution LeftyChristian Oct 2015 #43

Except nazi germany actually expanded gun rights. Of course they restricted the jews and MillennialDem Oct 2015 #36

Not my list LeftyChristian Oct 2015 #46

Eyeroll: from wiki MillennialDem Oct 2015 #50

What is your point? LeftyChristian Oct 2015 #95

False dichotomy. You can fight without a gun and you can be taken captive even with one. And MillennialDem Oct 2015 #96

Exactly, we have an Equal Protection Clause treestar Oct 2015 #87

Who was exterminated in Australia? treestar Oct 2015 #86

And this is the guy to do it sarisataka Oct 2015 #12

We'll call this "Project: Prison Population Explosion." Dr. Strange Oct 2015 #15

Also likely to be called Police Reduction Program dumbcat Oct 2015 #32

It's hard to have a real rational discussion on this topic... NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #38

Good luck with that. There is that pesky little thing The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2015 #16

Enforce the 2nd Amendment! Like the NRA says, just enforce the laws we have! flamin lib Oct 2015 #17

Within the week JackInGreen Oct 2015 #79

Notice these pencil dick losers workinclasszero Oct 2015 #90

For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. - H.L. Mencken nt Xipe Totec Oct 2015 #18

That would cause a civil war LittleBlue Oct 2015 #19

Maybe guns should be issued to everybody, including children, then at designated moment point the Lint Head Oct 2015 #20

Talk about giving the Alex Jones conspiracy wackos the ultimate Christmas present. Monk06 Oct 2015 #23

That's tyranny. Like the misinterpreted Second Amendment is tyranny on the majority of Americans. onehandle Oct 2015 #24

There's 200 million of them. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #26

Do you comprehend the results of that? WDIM Oct 2015 #29

There would be a mass ignoring of the law krispos42 Oct 2015 #59

This is not a good idea, Blue_In_AK Oct 2015 #31

And how, specifically, do you suggest they do that? Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #35

nope Angry Dragon Oct 2015 #41

The Federal government needs to ban all alcohol and drugs. pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #44

It worked in Australia librechik Oct 2015 #47

Australia did not ban guns. There are plenty of guns in Australia hack89 Oct 2015 #49

No one will ever die again. ileus Oct 2015 #52

What a moronic thread. GGJohn Oct 2015 #63

Not a deep thinker are you. eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #64

Do you also propose to completely secure the borders? BOTH of them? cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #67

Yeah, who needs that pesky Constitution? ladyVet Oct 2015 #72

Earlier this week a different poster the Constitution was described as "yellowing parchment" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #73

It's not credible that would be the result treestar Oct 2015 #89

Thanks for helping pro gun advocates like myself. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #74

It's only a matter of time before the roundup begins. cheapdate Oct 2015 #76

Yes chalmers JackInGreen Oct 2015 #78

I still think a license for each weapon is the way to go. LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #81

I have 4 vehicles but only one license. oneshooter Oct 2015 #92

That is the license I am talking about. Most people have different licenses for each vehicle. LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #94

Licenses are generally for public use, not for simple ownership. beevul Oct 2015 #97

I wish there was a way treestar Oct 2015 #84

This solution is exactly what the NRA is using to fight gun jwirr Oct 2015 #91

Federal government needs to confiscate all automobiles workinclasszero Oct 2015 #93