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JDPriestly

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15. Thank you.
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 11:31 AM
Oct 2015

The more violence there is, the less safe we feel, the more violence there is, the less safe we feel . . . . . . . .

It is a self-creating crisis, a spiral.

Passing a law that requires gun-owners to identify themselves and their guns and preventing people who have sought mental health care from being able to identify themselves as gun owners will help if it makes us feel safer, but it won't really change much.

Because the identification and background checks will not prevent people who are suicidal or extremely angry (and shooters usually fit into one or the other of those categories) from finding a gun somehow if they want one or using some other method to harm those they want to harm.

And furthermore preventing people who are identified as "mentally ill" (which does not include a lot of shooters) from owning guns won't prevent them from finding guns either if they want to have them.

And then, as the OP points out, the police have guns and can use them just as foolishly albeit maybe less intentionally to kill innocent or helpless people as some guy who bought his as Walmart.

The gun legislation may help some, but we won't get change until we ourselves change and acknowledge that something in our culture is the problem.

Maybe we are a bit addicted to violence. Maybe we are just impatient. Maybe we make too many excuses in our movies, in our lives, for violent outbursts. Maybe we don't value forgiving. Maybe we take small insults too seriously. Maybe our society is one in which many people are just plain left out and lonely.

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We do have a broken society, we have to do something about the ruptures ck4829 Oct 2015 #1
"We do have a broken society" EX500rider Oct 2015 #19
It's akin to putting a band-aid over cancer and hoping it will go away. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2015 #2
Heck I thought you were saying we should all aim at Wayne LaPierre... Human101948 Oct 2015 #3
What does it mean to "live by the gun"? discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #27
Literary reference... Human101948 Oct 2015 #29
The US also has the largest military in the world, it's no coincidence HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #4
Excellent points, especially the trumpeting about freedom Hydra Oct 2015 #6
great post Locrian Oct 2015 #7
Thank you. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #15
Consider that people with mental disorder suffer significant prejudice and discrimination HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #21
This is my view as well Hydra Oct 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author think4yourself Oct 2015 #8
I tend to agree. malthaussen Oct 2015 #9
True, but let's don't expect miracles from mousetraps. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #16
There are a lot of great comments in this thread. zeemike Oct 2015 #10
Roided cops should be outlawed. But who will arrest the roid cop? Another roid cop? valerief Oct 2015 #11
I've been taking steroids for about 40 years. Haven't shot up any innocent people yet. jtuck004 Oct 2015 #13
Roid Cops valerief Oct 2015 #14
Oh, geez, blue linkitis.' All I want is real evidence, not a bunch of supposition. This is like jtuck004 Oct 2015 #17
I don't want to chat with an angry AAS user. nt valerief Oct 2015 #18
It's an arms race between cowards - NRA versus the Police with Congress funding them both and whereisjustice Oct 2015 #12
And three cops can't subdue a 55 year old woman with a knife and need to shoot her and kill her! cascadiance Oct 2015 #22
Cops are cops because they want the right to shoot people they don't like, they are rarely whereisjustice Oct 2015 #23
Story was just updated to indicate that those shooting woman were "deputies", not police... cascadiance Oct 2015 #24
Aloha might be covered by Wash. County deputies, Beaverton is close by but Aloha might be outside whereisjustice Oct 2015 #25
We live in a military nation that awards those that are authoritarian in nature. Rex Oct 2015 #20
just to prove your point questionseverything Oct 2015 #28
The MIC inadvertently and continuously slaughters millions for trillions, cold blooded Murder !!!! orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #26
And I'm reminded of the old Smirnoff punch line LiberalElite Oct 2015 #30
Mass media ala oligarchy shoulders much of the responsibility. They love their divide and conquer. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #31
Thanks for this POV Fairgo Oct 2015 #32
Might makes right. Octafish Oct 2015 #33
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