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HereSince1628

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21. Consider that people with mental disorder suffer significant prejudice and discrimination
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 02:13 PM
Oct 2015

and ask yourself honestly...do you think blaming such a stigmatized group is based on actual risk or bigoted fantasy?

The NRA doesn't want to taint guns because guns have an obvious role in US gun violence. So, they tap into national bigotry toward persons with mental disorders to lump them all into a single category that operates on the other common feature of gun violence...the owner of the finger on the trigger.

The NRA's dissembling works because mental disorders are actually very very common and so almost every story of gun violence can be linked to a person with a pseudo-diagnosis of indicators of mental illness in their past by a teacher, neighbor or playmate. 25% of the US population has a mental disorder per year. By the time a person is strong enough to hold up a gun and pull the trigger, there is a damned good chance that person has already expressed some indication of a mental illness.

There may well be connections of some forms of gun violence to specific mental illnesses, and it seems that the mass-shooting plus suicide is likely to be one of then, because suicide on it's won has an 80% association with the presence of mental disorders.

But the push for zero-tolerance for persons with any mental disorder making a gun purchase is mostly just a mirror of the near zero-tolerance for mental disorders that exists in US society. America needs enemies. Without THEM we cannot be US.


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We do have a broken society, we have to do something about the ruptures ck4829 Oct 2015 #1
"We do have a broken society" EX500rider Oct 2015 #19
It's akin to putting a band-aid over cancer and hoping it will go away. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2015 #2
Heck I thought you were saying we should all aim at Wayne LaPierre... Human101948 Oct 2015 #3
What does it mean to "live by the gun"? discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #27
Literary reference... Human101948 Oct 2015 #29
The US also has the largest military in the world, it's no coincidence HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #4
Excellent points, especially the trumpeting about freedom Hydra Oct 2015 #6
great post Locrian Oct 2015 #7
Thank you. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #15
Consider that people with mental disorder suffer significant prejudice and discrimination HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #21
This is my view as well Hydra Oct 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author think4yourself Oct 2015 #8
I tend to agree. malthaussen Oct 2015 #9
True, but let's don't expect miracles from mousetraps. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #16
There are a lot of great comments in this thread. zeemike Oct 2015 #10
Roided cops should be outlawed. But who will arrest the roid cop? Another roid cop? valerief Oct 2015 #11
I've been taking steroids for about 40 years. Haven't shot up any innocent people yet. jtuck004 Oct 2015 #13
Roid Cops valerief Oct 2015 #14
Oh, geez, blue linkitis.' All I want is real evidence, not a bunch of supposition. This is like jtuck004 Oct 2015 #17
I don't want to chat with an angry AAS user. nt valerief Oct 2015 #18
It's an arms race between cowards - NRA versus the Police with Congress funding them both and whereisjustice Oct 2015 #12
And three cops can't subdue a 55 year old woman with a knife and need to shoot her and kill her! cascadiance Oct 2015 #22
Cops are cops because they want the right to shoot people they don't like, they are rarely whereisjustice Oct 2015 #23
Story was just updated to indicate that those shooting woman were "deputies", not police... cascadiance Oct 2015 #24
Aloha might be covered by Wash. County deputies, Beaverton is close by but Aloha might be outside whereisjustice Oct 2015 #25
We live in a military nation that awards those that are authoritarian in nature. Rex Oct 2015 #20
just to prove your point questionseverything Oct 2015 #28
The MIC inadvertently and continuously slaughters millions for trillions, cold blooded Murder !!!! orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #26
And I'm reminded of the old Smirnoff punch line LiberalElite Oct 2015 #30
Mass media ala oligarchy shoulders much of the responsibility. They love their divide and conquer. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #31
Thanks for this POV Fairgo Oct 2015 #32
Might makes right. Octafish Oct 2015 #33
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