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pampango

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46. I do like the picture this paints.

Sat Oct 3, 2015, 03:39 PM

Oct 2015

* Keep mentioning the barrel bombs.

Don't deny Assad uses them to terrorize civilians. Just point out that he did not invent them.

Of course, he did not invent the use of secret police, torture, execution and poison gas either. That understanding did not seem to pacify the Syrian people in 2011.

* Keep mentioning “200,000.”

Just point out that a civil war was not inevitable and that 200,000+ have died in it.

* Keep mentioning the “Arab Spring” and how in 2011 Syrians peacefully mobilized to challenge the regime were violently repressed. But don’t dwell on the Arab Spring too much. Realize that the State Department was actually shocked by it ...

Don't deny that Syrians mobilized peacefully to challenge a dictator and were violently repressed. Just point out that the US government was surprised by it hence was unlikely to be behind it.

Great points. Thanks for posting it, Octafish.

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The Largest US Foreign Policy Blunder Since Vietnam Is Complete: Iran Readies Massive Syrian Ground [View all] FlatBaroque Oct 2015 OP

Perhaps check the Foreign Affairs and Foreign Policy sites for more professional Hortensis Oct 2015 #1

Not the most reliable source. n/t GP6971 Oct 2015 #2

But Reuters and WSJ are also citied in Durden's article. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2015 #17

The fury with which the Statists pounce on any foreign policy FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #20

Thanks for that link, dixiegrrrrl. Ghost Dog Oct 2015 #36

you are welcome.... dixiegrrrrl Oct 2015 #38

... Or condemning people instead of addressing the topic... Ghost Dog Oct 2015 #45

People attack the source Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #56

Didn't Zero Hedge say the Iranian bourse pricing in Euros was going to lead to the end of all life Recursion Oct 2015 #3

The oligarchy is getting the eternal war for profit that they had Cheney, Zorra Oct 2015 #4

It seems they're doing everything possible for the Big One. Octafish Oct 2015 #32

.....says one guy on the internet spanone Oct 2015 #5

Says one guy that needs to hide behind a pseudonym - Tyler Durden Brother Buzz Oct 2015 #8

If this had been written by Alex Jones, it probably would be hidden & this guys sounds 10x nuttier. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #40

A Useful Prep-Sheet on Syria for Media Propagandists Octafish Oct 2015 #6

Maybe Leupp should stick to interracial intimacy in Shogunate Japan. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #7

You sound scared of sex, NuclearDem. Octafish Oct 2015 #9

Suggesting someone might be discussing things outside their speciality makes me scared of sex? NuclearDem Oct 2015 #28

Oh, I see. I have to answer to your deflection. What's that called? Octafish Oct 2015 #30

Leupp's area of expertise is shogunate Japan, with quite a bit of attention on sex and NuclearDem Oct 2015 #33

Are you afraid of Leupp? Octafish Oct 2015 #37

You have an odd definition of afraid. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #43

So why not refute what he has to say, instead of attacking him personally? Octafish Oct 2015 #44

Brilliant line of attack FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #18

Am I missing some special insight a specialist in shogunate Japan NuclearDem Oct 2015 #31

Thank you. I was hoping you would see this FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #10

Henry Kissinger holds a lot of responsibility. Octafish Oct 2015 #19

I do like the picture this paints. pampango Oct 2015 #46

Fucking worthless Zero Hedge that's never been right about anything. Nice try hiding the URL. nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #11

Says Zero Hedge right on top of the post FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #12

My steam-obscured view nothwithstanding, why did you post anything from that shit rag? nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #14

Good bye FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #15

That's what I thought. A non-answer from a disinformationalist. Weak and cowardly. Anything ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author Octafish Oct 2015 #22

I have a lot of respect for you Octafish and I usually follow you and your information. However, I ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #24

I feel the same toward you, ChisolmTrailDem. Octafish Oct 2015 #26

Just so you and dixiegrrrl understand, I spent a period of years reading that website and two things ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #27

Thank you for the heads-up. Octafish Oct 2015 #29

Just be discerning with regard to Zero Hedge as a reliable source. It can be an entertaining site ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #34

Thank you, Octafish. Ghost Dog Oct 2015 #41

Attacking the source instead of addressing the facts does not promote discussion well. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2015 #21

You do know that Tyler Durden is a catchall nick that is used by all the contributors to that site? ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #23

Vietnam = ground troops + draft; Iran= no such thing wordpix Oct 2015 #13

Does this blunder center around W's invasion of Iraq, or Poppy Bush's Desert Storm? n2doc Oct 2015 #25

Zerohedge? FFS... Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #35

I am completely okay with Russia and Iran being dragged into this quagmire Ex Lurker Oct 2015 #39

Wrong. moondust Oct 2015 #42

More Putin is brilliant, Obama is an idiot. Does Trump post here? n/t pampango Oct 2015 #47

Russia bombing in Syria lovuian Oct 2015 #48

The largest blunder was Iraq malaise Oct 2015 #49

I think you hit the nail on the head FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #51

Absolutely - I was headed to the bottom of this thread to post exactly that (nt) Samantha Oct 2015 #52

What I don't get is why some folks believe the US can fugg things up and then malaise Oct 2015 #54

So we blundered by 'allowing' Putin to invade? Interesting perspective. randome Oct 2015 #50

I suspect that this alliance and it's timing after Iran sanctions are lifted Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #53

The money shot from the article Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #55