A red flag most of us missed in the Kim Davis fantasy.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

50. I was a catholic and I work for the catholics.

The history of the Church is more complex than Game of Thrones.

Take The Norbertines and St. Norbert (who only became pious after a scary thunderstorm). My experience with them was in the aftermath of a pedophile scandal. They seemed to want to pass the blame and were thoroughly insensitive to women in behavior and homily re: abortion.

Now I work for the Franciscans. Naive and playful, they're a much easier group to work for.

Think back to when the catholic church was truly competing with European monarchies....


".... Guibert or Wibert of Ravenna (c. 1029 – 8 September 1100) was an Italian prelate, archbishop of Ravenna, who was elected pope in 1080 in opposition to Pope Gregory VII. Gregory was the leader of the movement in the church which opposed the traditional claim of European monarchs to control ecclesiastical appointments, and this was opposed by supporters of monarchical rights led by the Holy Roman Emperor. This led to the conflict known as the Investiture Controversy. Gregory was felt by many to have gone too far when he excommunicated the Holy Roman Emperor Henry IV and supported a rival claimant as emperor, and in 1080 the pro-imperial Synod of Brixen pronounced that Gregory was deposed and replaced as pope by Guibert....."

They actually had an "Antipope".