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branford

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33. Both the NRA and NRA-ILA have the absolute right to promote virtually whatever they want

Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:34 AM

Oct 2015

for whatever reason they want. The simple fact is that an organization that only claims 5-6% of American gun owners as members manages to affect to firearm zeitgeist in this country so thoroughly that they've become the boogeyman of the gun control movement.

Regardless of your feelings on the matter, a great many Americans own guns and support gun rights, and if the NRA didn't exist, something else comparable (or worse) would take its place. I would also note that the two biggest gun control victories in recent memory, the Heller and McDonald Supreme Court decisions (and more lower court decisions), resulted from the actions of the Second Amendment Foundation, not the NRA.

How do you propose to counter the influence of the NRA and other gun rights groups? Do you believe disingenuous strawman arguments and childlike insults, like those expressed in the OP, are a viable strategy?

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Is there any difference between a maggot infestation and the NRA after a mass shooting? [View all] whereisjustice Oct 2015 OP

Well, maggots can serve useful purposes. The NRA, umm... nothing comes to mind. Thor_MN Oct 2015 #1

Unintentional humor? Major Nikon Oct 2015 #43

Stop insulting maggots. Vinca Oct 2015 #2

Maggots are not insulted, they just just looking for the next meal nolabels Oct 2015 #58

As many people pointed out to me, maggots are more honest creatures than the NRA whereisjustice Oct 2015 #104

All things considered though, it would seem to me that maggots would be on the side of the NRA nolabels Oct 2015 #120

A maggot might find it hard to pull a trigger, but perhaps NRA would build a gun so dangerous whereisjustice Oct 2015 #122

Somehow it all kind of makes sense to me that a maggot would want to pull the trigger nolabels Oct 2015 #124

Would you care to actually cite the NRA's comments about the Oregon shooting? branford Oct 2015 #3

I'll take that as a no. whereisjustice Oct 2015 #4

I'll take that as you're advancing nothing but strawman arguments, branford Oct 2015 #6

Yep, that's a no. whereisjustice Oct 2015 #7

the purpose of the NRA is to sell guns for its corporate gun making owners nt msongs Oct 2015 #9

I'll of inquire of you as I did the OP. branford Oct 2015 #13

No, that would be the NSSF, GGJohn Oct 2015 #28

... ellisonz Oct 2015 #105

Awww, how cute. eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #106

No, that's just the marketing pabulum. n/t backscatter712 Oct 2015 #123

You're wrong about the mission of the NRA Gormy Cuss Oct 2015 #16

I'm not really trying to defend NRA policies, branford Oct 2015 #19

NRA-ILA is the NRA. Gormy Cuss Oct 2015 #21

The divide is legal and quite meaningful. branford Oct 2015 #30

That the divide is legal doesn't mean much. Gormy Cuss Oct 2015 #31

Both the NRA and NRA-ILA have the absolute right to promote virtually whatever they want branford Oct 2015 #33

I'll take that as you have been pushing a lie for the past couple of days, GGJohn Oct 2015 #24

When they get around to figuring out what to say -- as NRA did after Sandy Hook -- it will be fear, Hoyt Oct 2015 #8

So, even you cannot find any statements by the NRA "feasting over the dead" in Oregon. branford Oct 2015 #12

Oh, there are plenty of vidoes of NRA's press conference after Sandy Hook. Then NRA Prez Keene, Hoyt Oct 2015 #14

I'll try this yet again. branford Oct 2015 #15

This is not a deposition, Counselor. You have to defend/apologize for gunz differently on a forum Hoyt Oct 2015 #18

Yep, you got nothing. nt branford Oct 2015 #20

So far you are 2-0 dumbcat Oct 2015 #25

Yep they tend to run away Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #60

Classic Hoytism GGJohn Oct 2015 #27

And another classic Hoytism. GGJohn Oct 2015 #26

Maggots only feed off the dead; They don't afflict the victims' families Bucky Oct 2015 #5

I'm sorry for picking on good friends, the NRA - here's a way to lighten things up... whereisjustice Oct 2015 #10

Maggots can be used to remove decaying tissue -iow, they can perform a valuable service hatrack Oct 2015 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author olddots Oct 2015 #17

NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA,NRA, GGJohn Oct 2015 #22

Big difference malaise Oct 2015 #23

The NRA is very proud to call themselves part of the maggot economy. But they're just parasites. whereisjustice Oct 2015 #28

Hmmm, got a link to that? GGJohn Oct 2015 #32

yes - www.fuckyounraparasites.com, if that doesn't work try www.nrapondscum.com whereisjustice Oct 2015 #34

Yep, just as I thought, GGJohn Oct 2015 #35

Really? laundry_queen Oct 2015 #36

Maybe those that have been slamming firearm owners here need a break, GGJohn Oct 2015 #37

LOL I don't think so. laundry_queen Oct 2015 #38

LOL, I do think so, and my opinon is the only one that counts with me. GGJohn Oct 2015 #40

It was well before you joined. laundry_queen Oct 2015 #44

The NRA supports anyone who shares their view on the 2A, GGJohn Oct 2015 #48

No laundry_queen Oct 2015 #52

Oh, you're a Canadian? GGJohn Oct 2015 #54

I sure am. laundry_queen Oct 2015 #59

No, you don't have a say in our laws, you may think you do, GGJohn Oct 2015 #61

It's DU here, not Congress laundry_queen Oct 2015 #63

Of course you can opine on DU, I never said otherwise, GGJohn Oct 2015 #67

Which is where laundry_queen Oct 2015 #68

I have a hell of lot more say than you do, GGJohn Oct 2015 #74

And I don't hold that particular view laundry_queen Oct 2015 #76

Some valuable insight into treestar Oct 2015 #77

I don't care what other countries do with their gun laws, I have no say in it, GGJohn Oct 2015 #82

I notice Canada Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #85

Just the long guns, not hand guns. Still need a license to own any gun. laundry_queen Oct 2015 #113

And it would cost much more here Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #114

It wasn't a good reason to end it laundry_queen Oct 2015 #115

What would have changed if Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #116

I'm not going to fall into the trap laundry_queen Oct 2015 #117

that is where we differ I guess Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #118

But it does change things laundry_queen Oct 2015 #119

Which ones??????? Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #121

Oh bullshit. beevul Oct 2015 #70

It's the math laundry_queen Oct 2015 #71

That logic is just as wrong as you use it, as it is when drug warriors use it. beevul Oct 2015 #72

There is no comparison with drugs laundry_queen Oct 2015 #73

There's no comparison with drugs? GGJohn Oct 2015 #75

the drug violence is because of the guns treestar Oct 2015 #78

Wrong, GGJohn Oct 2015 #84

Headdesk laundry_queen Oct 2015 #79

Ok, that's a fair point and I apologize for mis reading your post. GGJohn Oct 2015 #86

I meant there is no physical dependence laundry_queen Oct 2015 #94

It's my belief, and I admit I could be wrong because I don't live in your beautiful country, GGJohn Oct 2015 #96

That is what a lot of people think and I'd like to say FU to Michael Moore on this laundry_queen Oct 2015 #99

Well, like I said, I could be wrong because I don't live in your country, GGJohn Oct 2015 #100

Also, you're govt's approach on the issue of illicit drugs is much more sane GGJohn Oct 2015 #98

I wasn't comparing drugs. I was comparing logic. beevul Oct 2015 #87

And I was saying it doesn't logically follow. nt laundry_queen Oct 2015 #88

Oh it most certainly does. beevul Oct 2015 #91

If you say so, especially if you underline it, then it must make it so. laundry_queen Oct 2015 #102

Now youre trying to muddy the waters. beevul Oct 2015 #108

And another one from another country Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #62

What's wrong with that? laundry_queen Oct 2015 #65

Nothing and you can say whatever you want Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #66

I agree it alienates them laundry_queen Oct 2015 #69

Yes, some have been saying that for 30-40 Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #81

A lot of Americans don't want so many guns around treestar Oct 2015 #80

Good for you, so do I Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #83

Yet the majority of Americans think firearm rights are more important than more restrictions. GGJohn Oct 2015 #95

What I sound like to you is irrelevant, GGJohn Oct 2015 #41

It absolutely has bearing laundry_queen Oct 2015 #47

Well, you're right about one thing, GGJohn Oct 2015 #49

As I have said, you have made that very clear laundry_queen Oct 2015 #50

IRL, GGJohn Oct 2015 #51

Because you are spoonfed the propaganda from the day you are born laundry_queen Oct 2015 #53

LOL. GGJohn Oct 2015 #55

Just like people who think advertising 'doesn't work on them' laundry_queen Oct 2015 #56

Well, you believe what you want to believe, GGJohn Oct 2015 #57

It's a fact laundry_queen Oct 2015 #64

Are you special? beevul Oct 2015 #93

Did you analyze American propaganda in high school? laundry_queen Oct 2015 #97

Agree with me on what? beevul Oct 2015 #101

Slap chop laundry_queen Oct 2015 #103

How does billionaire bloomberg fit into your paradigm? N/T beevul Oct 2015 #109

Show me the numbers and I'll let you know. nt laundry_queen Oct 2015 #111

A roach, maggot, hook worm are having lunch and an NRA walks up to them and says "mind if I join" whereisjustice Oct 2015 #45

Sure there is rock Oct 2015 #39

Maggots prevent gangrene Recursion Oct 2015 #42

Right wing NRA maggots killing more than any other hate group in USA, thats for sure. whereisjustice Oct 2015 #46

Here's what I think about the whole gun control controversy: PatrickforO Oct 2015 #89

Yes maggots have a purpose in life /nt workinclasszero Oct 2015 #90

Let me try to bring some clarity by relating a heart warming story about guns whereisjustice Oct 2015 #92

45th... deathrind Oct 2015 #107

Well, a maggot infestation doesn't generally bring a horde of supporters to DU Orrex Oct 2015 #110

K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #112