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In reply to the discussion: I don't care how insane, crazy, sociopathic, anti-social you are. If you can't get access to guns [View all]still_one
(98,883 posts)stop the gun deaths. Those against any form of gun control are incorrectly, and intentionally reframing the argument. The point isn't that it would completely stop all gun deaths, but that it would reduce them. Making it illegal to drive an automobile if intoxicated, doesn't eliminate drunk driving deaths, but it does reduce them. There are all kinds of examples. Taking blood pressure medicine doesn't mean you won't get a heart attack or stroke, but it removes a risk live that improve your odds.
There is a direct correlation with the liberalizing of gun laws, and increased gun deaths. There are some who say the facts don't substantiate that argument, however, the facts say just the opposite. In fact Congress went out of their way to extend a ban on CDC research on gun violence:
"Dr. Fred Rivara, a professor of Pediatrics and Epidemiology at the University of Washington at Seattle Children's Hospital, has been involved with injury research for 30 years. He was part of a team that researched gun violence back in the 1990s and personally saw the chilling effects of the NRAs lobbying arm. Rivara says that the NRA accused the CDC of trying to use science to promote gun control.
As a result of that, many, many people stopped doing gun research, [and] the number of publications on firearm violence decreased dramatically," he told The Takeaway in April. "It was really chilling in terms of our ability to conduct research on this very important problem.
In 2013, some 34,000 Americans died from gunshot wounds. So Takeaway Washington Correspondent Todd Zwillich decided to ask House Speaker John Boehner why his party is trying to block research on gun violence.
The CDC is there to look at diseases that need to be dealt with to protect public health, Boehner said at a press conference last week. Im sorry, but a gun is not a disease. Guns dont kill people people do. And when people use weapons in a horrible way, we should condemn the actions of the individual and not blame the action on some weapon.
But does the CDC research blame the public health issue of gun violence on the weapons themselves?
The original concern from the National Rifle Association back in 1996, which Dr. Rivara mentioned, made that very implication, says Zwillich. The NRA complained to Congress that the CDC was using the results of its research to essentially advocate for gun control. They called it propaganda. And back at that time, Congress slashed the CDCs funding by the exact amount that was used for gun-related public health research.
Rivara and his team discovered that having a gun in the home is associated with a threefold increase in the risk of a homicide they released this information in a series of peer-reviewed articles that appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine. The CDC both funded Rivaras original research and stood by the findings.
But after Congress seemingly retaliated against the CDC for publishing Rivaras findings, Zwillich says researchers with the agency have shied away from conducting gun research.
There is other research that goes on at the CDC that does have to do with guns, says Zwillich. There is a National Violent Death Reporting System, which does record the causes of all violent deaths, including in domestic abuse, youth violence, and child abuse. If a gun is the cause, thats recorded its not like they ignore it entirely. But gun deaths and gun injuries as a public health issue, as Rivara said, are still basically anathema to CDC researchers and anyone who gets CDC funding, which is potentially millions of dollar"
http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-07-02/quietly-congress-extends-ban-cdc-research-gun-violence