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uhnope

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58. he might just be trying to explain the error. US military will not bomb in this situ unless there

Mon Oct 5, 2015, 03:21 PM

Oct 2015

is both corroboration on the ground as well as tracer fire spotted from the air. Word is that tracer fire was spotted coming from the compound.

Don't get me wrong--if this place was registered as a MSF hospital, this is a snafu of horrible proportions.

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�Unspeakable�: An MSF Nurse Recounts the Attack on MSF�s Kunduz Hospital [View all] Octafish Oct 2015 OP

And we will have "an investigation" that leads nowhere, and keep on doing the same damned thing. djean111 Oct 2015 #1

Working as we speak to blame the doctors for harboring terrorists. Octafish Oct 2015 #5

It sounds like he is accusing MSF of being complicit with the Taliban. MH1 Oct 2015 #16

Right. Guess he has to, otherwise they'd have picked somebody else for the job. Octafish Oct 2015 #20

I agree with the MSF statement, but I think there is a place for US investigation. MH1 Oct 2015 #24

A US investigation that's already been determined!!! atreides1 Oct 2015 #26

truth n/t questionseverything Oct 2015 #27

To determine how it happened, in detail, to prevent it in the future, MH1 Oct 2015 #28

Got news for you atreides1 Oct 2015 #77

Whom u going to believe, MSF or a bunch of homicidal KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #50

so you're calling NATO "homocidal thugs and their puppets"? uhnope Oct 2015 #109

NATO are homicidal thugs. WTF is NATO doing in central KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #121

he might just be trying to explain the error. US military will not bomb in this situ unless there uhnope Oct 2015 #58

"Don't get me wrong" Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #91

that's rich coming from a Kremlin fan uhnope Oct 2015 #94

Sorta sounds like the Afghani people called in the airstrike, maybe. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2015 #35

People in the hospital phoned US and Afghan authorities while attack went on. Octafish Oct 2015 #46

It was a horrible mistake. uhnope Oct 2015 #57

do you think this horrible mistake means the US should not fight ISIS? uhnope Oct 2015 #64

I hope the president is very proud. cwydro Oct 2015 #2

He's become used to killing from a swivel chair. Octafish Oct 2015 #10

I think Obama is easily led. cwydro Oct 2015 #33

We will get a status quo-politician, ronnie624 Oct 2015 #98

This is horrifying on so many levels. Please donate to their organization flamingdem Oct 2015 #3

Thank you! Octafish Oct 2015 #11

Phenomenal organization FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #13

The asshats and emoticon brigade have soiled their Depends at the thought of peace. Octafish Oct 2015 #15

Some will certainly survive FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #17

Frank Carlucci, BFEE, has gone into the luxury lifeboat line... Octafish Oct 2015 #19

Carlucci must be a wild eyed conspiracy theorist FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #23

funny, I recall you justifying Russia's war on the Ukraine quite a bit. uhnope Oct 2015 #60

Yeah? Show where. Octafish Oct 2015 #63

are you also strongly opposed to Russia's war on ISIS? yes or no? uhnope Oct 2015 #65

So, you can't show where I wrote what you accused me of saying? Octafish Oct 2015 #68

LOL. So you oppose war when the West does it. uhnope Oct 2015 #70

I remember when posts like yours would lead to getting banned. Octafish Oct 2015 #72

yeah, banning dissidents who ask inconvenient questions sounds like something you'd favor uhnope Oct 2015 #74

No. Banning disinformationists who work to smear DUers. Octafish Oct 2015 #75

emoticon brigade Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #92

Why is anyone surprised? Remember how we bombed Al Jazeera librechik Oct 2015 #4

Remember when we bombed CNN? Their boss got fired for saying it looked on purpose. Octafish Oct 2015 #12

exactly. The US is not a heroic force of the people anymore (if it ever was) librechik Oct 2015 #14

''War is a Racket.'' -- Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler, USMC Octafish Oct 2015 #18

^THIS^ n/t malaise Oct 2015 #22

The US (North) was a heroic force of the people in the US Civil War. That's probably the KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #122

I can't find the words to express how disgusted I am by this. n/t demmiblue Oct 2015 #6

The accounts are unimaginable for a good person. Octafish Oct 2015 #25

I remember that Obama said no more war. cwydro Oct 2015 #107

It gets easier every year to say you were dreaming. Octafish Oct 2015 #110

There was some promise about closing Gitmo too. cwydro Oct 2015 #111

I heard him tell a room that he was ''Left of Center.'' Octafish Oct 2015 #113

He lost me during the BP spill. cwydro Oct 2015 #115

Stay away from Pacific seafood, too. Octafish Oct 2015 #123

we're still winning hearts and minds. still being greeted as liberators Doctor_J Oct 2015 #7

Weird how that works. Octafish Oct 2015 #29

But patients who were unable to escape burned to death as they lay in their beds.' CrispyQ Oct 2015 #8

Unable to move, ICU patients burned in their beds. Octafish Oct 2015 #32

So horrible. polly7 Oct 2015 #9

Not collateral. They targeted hospital. Octafish Oct 2015 #42

BS. So now NATO, the US & Afghan forces are "terrorists" who want to bomb hospitals? uhnope Oct 2015 #66

This is someone who thinks a former US President helped organize another President's assassination YoungDemCA Oct 2015 #96

really? thanks. uhnope Oct 2015 #97

I saw it was an AC 130 Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #93

It just makes me want to cry. Aerows Oct 2015 #67

It's only unspeakable when others are the perpetrators malaise Oct 2015 #21

...^ that 840high Oct 2015 #30

What they do overseas, they bring home. Octafish Oct 2015 #43

And that is why empires collapse malaise Oct 2015 #47

My neighbor's eyes got big as saucers when I mentioned the difference in warmaking effectiveness. Octafish Oct 2015 #55

One logical conclusion is that the Pentagon has been hijacked by warmongers malaise Oct 2015 #56

I'm so sick of war. This is just azmom Oct 2015 #31

Mom, they make big money off war. Octafish Oct 2015 #45

My BIL, pecwae Oct 2015 #34

Thank you! Octafish Oct 2015 #49

When will people understand...the MIC lives way way way way way above the law. Rex Oct 2015 #36

Privatizing the Unspeakable Octafish Oct 2015 #51

War is the ultimate racket. Rex Oct 2015 #59

War crime riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #37

That's what Doctors Without Borders said, too. Octafish Oct 2015 #53

all you people who thought the escalation was a grand idea Skittles Oct 2015 #38

Well said. Octafish Oct 2015 #54

Greenwald is predictably euphoric over the whole incident Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #39

Greenwald notes the irony. I don't see anything about sex in his tweet. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #40

or, maybe he was just right all along Skittles Oct 2015 #41

He was right malaise Oct 2015 #48

Or maybe he's been in bed with Putin all along Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #99

Telling what your reaction to this horror is Fumesucker Oct 2015 #44

A Limbaugh-esque reaction for sure - getting your underwear in a twist about bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #52

Please explain how this horrible mistake reflects on your view of the war against ISIS uhnope Oct 2015 #61

Way to conflate things. Octafish Oct 2015 #69

I'm not conflating. I'm asking if you think the US should not fight ISIS/Taliban. Simple question. uhnope Oct 2015 #73

Time Waster. Octafish Oct 2015 #76

LOL. Seems that you love the fact that this mistake makes the US military look bad. uhnope Oct 2015 #78

First, I prefer the term "war crime" instead of "mistake." mike_c Oct 2015 #79

of course it was a mistake uhnope Oct 2015 #80

mistaken or intentional, it's clearly a crime against humanity to bomb a civilian hospital.... mike_c Oct 2015 #81

you admit targeting the hospital might have been in error uhnope Oct 2015 #82

yes, it is still a war crime.... mike_c Oct 2015 #83

you keep making contradictory statements uhnope Oct 2015 #84

Amazed at how little attention this has got. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2015 #62

Thank you for putting it to words, Puzzledtraveller. Octafish Oct 2015 #71

Thank you Octafish. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2015 #85

The murdered and the injured.... Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #86

Agree 100-percent. This is Year 13 in Afghanistan. Octafish Oct 2015 #87

Chronic war criminals are fearful people who feel they must prepare for the backlash from the Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #88

People need to go to fucking prison over this. bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #89

The Radically Changing Story of the U.S. Airstrike on Afghan Hospital: From Mistake to Justification Octafish Oct 2015 #90

Glenn Greenwald. uhnope Oct 2015 #95

It was GREENWALD who called out Bush and Cheney on ILLEGAL N.S.A. Spying back in 2007. Octafish Oct 2015 #100

pls tell us more about history uhnope Oct 2015 #103

Ask George HW Bush about that. He told the FBI he was in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963. Octafish Oct 2015 #104

thank you. Also, is there a UFO coverup going on? uhnope Oct 2015 #108

That should be obvious, even to an ignoramus. Octafish Oct 2015 #112

thank you for the info. Can you tell us about vaccines and whether children should be vaccinated? uhnope Oct 2015 #114

So now you want to denigrate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.? Octafish Oct 2015 #116

thank you. Can tell us if the moon landings were faked or, alternately, there are secret moon bases? uhnope Oct 2015 #117

You sound like the people who stalk me from the conservative websites. Octafish Oct 2015 #118

why do you spend so much time on conservative websites? uhnope Oct 2015 #119

Like a teeny, tiny echo Dude. Octafish Oct 2015 #120

Those are the FBI's own documents. Octafish Oct 2015 #105

Merchants of Death Octafish Oct 2015 #106

Horrifying! AuntPatsy Oct 2015 #101

Death, misery and destruction from a war built on lies. Octafish Oct 2015 #102