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The NRA Reckons Australia’s Anti-Gun Laws Are “A Mistake”; Australia Tells NRA To Go Fuck Itself [View all]

The NRA Reckons Australia’s Anti-Gun Laws Are “A Mistake”; Australia Tells NRA To Go Fuck Itself
By Alex McKinnon, 13/7/2015

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Gun control advocates in the US regularly bring up Australia as an example of a country where gun restrictions can work; in his WTF podcast interview with Marc Maron, Barack Obama pointed out that after the infamous 1996 Port Arthur massacre, “the entire country said, ‘Well, we’re going to completely change our gun laws,’ and they did. And it hasn’t happened since.”

In an effort to debunk this crazy idea that fewer guns equals less gun violence, the NRA have published an article on one of its many websites claiming that Australia’s anti-gun laws were imposed against the will of most Australians and are actually making the country less safe. Tastefully titled ‘Australia: There Will Be Blood’, the article — which has been brought to people’s attention by the Herald‘s Nick O’Malley — claims John Howard’s anti-gun laws “robbed Australians of their right to self-defense and empowered criminals,” and that “there is now a growing consensus among impartial researchers that disarming Australia’s citizens did not make them safer”.

As you may have gleaned, that is a big ol’ pile of cowshit and the NRA are talking out of their arses. There have been a grand total of zero (0) mass shootings in Australia since those laws were passed, compared to the dozens that have transpired in America in the same time period.

More prosaically, gun-related deaths in Australia have fallen by around 7.5 percent every year since the laws were passed, and America’s gun homicide rate was 370 times higher than Australia’s in 2010-11. Somewhat miffed at the NRA’s inexplicable omission of these facts, people have begun raising them on social media using even more swear words than I have.

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The NRA Reckons Australia’s Anti-Gun Laws Are “A Mistake”; Australia Tells NRA To Go Fuck Itself [View all] kpete Oct 2015 OP

K&R... spanone Oct 2015 #1

I live in Australia Baadger Oct 2015 #41

thanks. i admire it when people see a problem and solve it. spanone Oct 2015 #42

We will most likely never solve it here... CoffeeCat Oct 2015 #64

Don't lose faith. It can and will be fixed one day Baadger Oct 2015 #77

You're so lucky to not have the fog of religion clouding over this issue valerief Oct 2015 #43

I believe that if someone uses your gun to commit a crime, that you be charged with felony whereisjustice Oct 2015 #68

I didn't agree with John Howard much, but he got this one right. SwissTony Oct 2015 #2

The NRA is very scared these days....very...the public is getting angry as they should. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #3

They are incredibly scared. ryan_cats Oct 2015 #6

I don't think so. Kablooie Oct 2015 #13

Right, Sandy Hook was the final stand Cosmocat Oct 2015 #69

Fear is the real problem. 60% of gun owners say they have them for personal safety. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #21

Perhaps still have gun clubs or shooting ranges... cascadiance Oct 2015 #27

Does gun ownership increase personal safety? ProgressiveEconomist Oct 2015 #37

But...but....but.... Bettie Oct 2015 #51

I have grandkids in and out of my house all the time. Stonepounder Oct 2015 #62

Of course it doesn't, however Cosmocat Oct 2015 #70

The NRA must be terrified... branford Oct 2015 #23

Facts scare the shit out of right wing bullshit artists. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #4

Which is why they rarely use them Lorien Oct 2015 #65

Agreed. Like a dishonest car salesperson trying to sell you a piece of shit, they are going to lie GoneFishin Oct 2015 #71

K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #5

We need to keep reminding ourselves that the gun-related death rate in the UK is . . . DrBulldog Oct 2015 #7

Does the NRA want more people to get shot? shenmue Oct 2015 #10

Yes,they do because it will sell more guns. Kablooie Oct 2015 #11

Then they are failing miserably hack89 Oct 2015 #20

To the NRA the more guns a nation has on the streets d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #12

That's a double edge sword. WHEN CRABS ROAR Oct 2015 #44

I understand that the UK's gun laws are strict, even by European standards.. whathehell Oct 2015 #15

Why exactly do we need an AWB? branford Oct 2015 #24

Um, as I told you in another thread on gun control.. whathehell Oct 2015 #29

Well, that's certainly a convincing and well thought-out defense of AWB's. branford Oct 2015 #30

LOL. Obviously, it wasn't intended to be.. whathehell Oct 2015 #46

Real facts are awkward to fit into your world view hack89 Oct 2015 #47

Is that right? whathehell Oct 2015 #50

Australians own as many guns as in 1996 hack89 Oct 2015 #8

I can think of only one way to prevent suicides... americannightmare Oct 2015 #17

^^^ This. K&R nt TBF Oct 2015 #22

Funny, you didn't make one mention of 'mass murder' which was louis-t Oct 2015 #26

"fewer guns equals less gun violence" hack89 Oct 2015 #28

Turns out more guns do not equal more gun violence. AlbertCat Oct 2015 #63

Which were exceedingly rare to start with. hack89 Oct 2015 #66

It's all about bashing gun owners and their "gunz". AlbertCat Oct 2015 #72

Which is why I have two safes - one for the guns and one for the ammo hack89 Oct 2015 #73

Then, sir.... AlbertCat Oct 2015 #74

Number of guns perhaps, but what type of guns? Category D? Darb Oct 2015 #32

Same thing has been happening in the US (falling murder rates with increasing guns in circulation) NickB79 Oct 2015 #34

K&R eom Duval Oct 2015 #9

Yep. ananda Oct 2015 #14

Good for Australia! n/t whathehell Oct 2015 #16

K&R pscot Oct 2015 #18

K/R: Hey, NRA -- go fuck yourselves Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #19

K&R. Paladin Oct 2015 #25

K & R! SoapBox Oct 2015 #31

They willing gave up their rights....let's not follow their crappy lead. ileus Oct 2015 #33

Does the cognitive dissonance ever cause you actual physical pain? Electric Monk Oct 2015 #38

Limiting / removing rights isn't progressive. ileus Oct 2015 #39

Depends on whose rights you are concerned about, I guess. truebluegreen Oct 2015 #45

Progressives can be authoritarian for sure. Nt hack89 Oct 2015 #48

Lol, you are nuts! Nt Logical Oct 2015 #60

Because restricting civil rights is so progressive. Nt hack89 Oct 2015 #49

no, it does not Skittles Oct 2015 #55

ugh Skittles Oct 2015 #54

Ok, now that proves you are not a reasonable gun owner. Nt Logical Oct 2015 #59

Guns don't kill people... Beartracks Oct 2015 #35

You mean...restricted access to military assault weapons of mass death workinclasszero Oct 2015 #36

We already do that. N/T beevul Oct 2015 #52

K&R etherealtruth Oct 2015 #40

Not so much a country as a people... beevul Oct 2015 #53

So your claim is they didn't work? Nt Logical Oct 2015 #61

My claim is, that which the people will not allow can not work. N/T beevul Oct 2015 #75

This is one of those things America does not need to export to the world. Dawson Leery Oct 2015 #56

k&rto Australia LW1977 Oct 2015 #57

K & R SunSeeker Oct 2015 #58

We all need to tell the NRA Fuck You. Hey NRA - Fuck You. whereisjustice Oct 2015 #67

but gunz make me feel manly!!!!!!!!!! bumprstickr Oct 2015 #76