General Discussion

backscatter712

(26,357 posts)

9. Arguing what?

Tue Oct 6, 2015, 11:14 AM

Oct 2015

John Oliver is stating some facts.

Fact: Most mentally ill people are not violent.

Fact: Most violent people are not mentally ill.

Fact: There's no way to distinguish the dangerous would-be-shooters in advance from everybody else using mental health diagnoses, and certainly no way to even try that without shitting on people's rights and turning the Constitution into toilet paper.

Fact: The real problem is easy access to guns.

Fact: The NRA always steers the conversation to mental illness after a mass-shooting, scapegoating the most vulnerable among us for cheap political points, so we're not talking about revamping firearms safety laws and cutting into their profitability.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

16 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Since the NRA is stigmatizing mental illness to distract from gun safety, here's John Oliver's take. [View all] backscatter712 Oct 2015 OP

KnR nt Mnemosyne Oct 2015 #1

Stigmatizing is done on both sides NobodyHere Oct 2015 #2

Gun fetishists ought to be stigmatized. hunter Oct 2015 #4

Control fetishists ought to be stigmatized. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #6

Thank you libodem Oct 2015 #3

Thank You! sub.theory Oct 2015 #5

A handful of dangerous people aren't the problem but 80 million good people are? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #7

Arguing from the other side then ryan_cats Oct 2015 #8

Arguing what? backscatter712 Oct 2015 #9

Well... ryan_cats Oct 2015 #10

Oh, you're the most easily attacked... backscatter712 Oct 2015 #11

Your laughing ryan_cats Oct 2015 #12

The rest of it aside, the fact is it is not the mentally ill who are doing all the shooting so focus Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #13

A stern countenance often does little more than to simply enable... LanternWaste Oct 2015 #14

I agree 100% ryan_cats Oct 2015 #15

See the problem is mental illness but not the mental illnesses we are focusing on kydo Oct 2015 #16