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valerief

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43. You're so lucky to not have the fog of religion clouding over this issue

Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:41 PM

Oct 2015

the way we do here in America. "God-given right blah-blah-blah." If we didn't have so much religion here, we could cultivate some reason. But that's why the billionaires make damn sure we have religion up the wazoo.

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The NRA Reckons Australia�s Anti-Gun Laws Are �A Mistake�; Australia Tells NRA To Go Fuck Itself [View all] kpete Oct 2015 OP

K&R... spanone Oct 2015 #1

I live in Australia Baadger Oct 2015 #41

thanks. i admire it when people see a problem and solve it. spanone Oct 2015 #42

We will most likely never solve it here... CoffeeCat Oct 2015 #64

Don't lose faith. It can and will be fixed one day Baadger Oct 2015 #77

You're so lucky to not have the fog of religion clouding over this issue valerief Oct 2015 #43

I believe that if someone uses your gun to commit a crime, that you be charged with felony whereisjustice Oct 2015 #68

I didn't agree with John Howard much, but he got this one right. SwissTony Oct 2015 #2

The NRA is very scared these days....very...the public is getting angry as they should. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #3

They are incredibly scared. ryan_cats Oct 2015 #6

I don't think so. Kablooie Oct 2015 #13

Right, Sandy Hook was the final stand Cosmocat Oct 2015 #69

Fear is the real problem. 60% of gun owners say they have them for personal safety. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #21

Perhaps still have gun clubs or shooting ranges... cascadiance Oct 2015 #27

Does gun ownership increase personal safety? ProgressiveEconomist Oct 2015 #37

But...but....but.... Bettie Oct 2015 #51

I have grandkids in and out of my house all the time. Stonepounder Oct 2015 #62

Of course it doesn't, however Cosmocat Oct 2015 #70

The NRA must be terrified... branford Oct 2015 #23

Facts scare the shit out of right wing bullshit artists. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #4

Which is why they rarely use them Lorien Oct 2015 #65

Agreed. Like a dishonest car salesperson trying to sell you a piece of shit, they are going to lie GoneFishin Oct 2015 #71

K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #5

We need to keep reminding ourselves that the gun-related death rate in the UK is . . . DrBulldog Oct 2015 #7

Does the NRA want more people to get shot? shenmue Oct 2015 #10

Yes,they do because it will sell more guns. Kablooie Oct 2015 #11

Then they are failing miserably hack89 Oct 2015 #20

To the NRA the more guns a nation has on the streets d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #12

That's a double edge sword. WHEN CRABS ROAR Oct 2015 #44

I understand that the UK's gun laws are strict, even by European standards.. whathehell Oct 2015 #15

Why exactly do we need an AWB? branford Oct 2015 #24

Um, as I told you in another thread on gun control.. whathehell Oct 2015 #29

Well, that's certainly a convincing and well thought-out defense of AWB's. branford Oct 2015 #30

LOL. Obviously, it wasn't intended to be.. whathehell Oct 2015 #46

Real facts are awkward to fit into your world view hack89 Oct 2015 #47

Is that right? whathehell Oct 2015 #50

Australians own as many guns as in 1996 hack89 Oct 2015 #8

I can think of only one way to prevent suicides... americannightmare Oct 2015 #17

^^^ This. K&R nt TBF Oct 2015 #22

Funny, you didn't make one mention of 'mass murder' which was louis-t Oct 2015 #26

"fewer guns equals less gun violence" hack89 Oct 2015 #28

Turns out more guns do not equal more gun violence. AlbertCat Oct 2015 #63

Which were exceedingly rare to start with. hack89 Oct 2015 #66

It's all about bashing gun owners and their "gunz". AlbertCat Oct 2015 #72

Which is why I have two safes - one for the guns and one for the ammo hack89 Oct 2015 #73

Then, sir.... AlbertCat Oct 2015 #74

Number of guns perhaps, but what type of guns? Category D? Darb Oct 2015 #32

Same thing has been happening in the US (falling murder rates with increasing guns in circulation) NickB79 Oct 2015 #34

K&R eom Duval Oct 2015 #9

Yep. ananda Oct 2015 #14

Good for Australia! n/t whathehell Oct 2015 #16

K&R pscot Oct 2015 #18

K/R: Hey, NRA -- go fuck yourselves Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #19

K&R. Paladin Oct 2015 #25

K & R! SoapBox Oct 2015 #31

They willing gave up their rights....let's not follow their crappy lead. ileus Oct 2015 #33

Does the cognitive dissonance ever cause you actual physical pain? Electric Monk Oct 2015 #38

Limiting / removing rights isn't progressive. ileus Oct 2015 #39

Depends on whose rights you are concerned about, I guess. truebluegreen Oct 2015 #45

Progressives can be authoritarian for sure. Nt hack89 Oct 2015 #48

Lol, you are nuts! Nt Logical Oct 2015 #60

Because restricting civil rights is so progressive. Nt hack89 Oct 2015 #49

no, it does not Skittles Oct 2015 #55

ugh Skittles Oct 2015 #54

Ok, now that proves you are not a reasonable gun owner. Nt Logical Oct 2015 #59

Guns don't kill people... Beartracks Oct 2015 #35

You mean...restricted access to military assault weapons of mass death workinclasszero Oct 2015 #36

We already do that. N/T beevul Oct 2015 #52

K&R etherealtruth Oct 2015 #40

Not so much a country as a people... beevul Oct 2015 #53

So your claim is they didn't work? Nt Logical Oct 2015 #61

My claim is, that which the people will not allow can not work. N/T beevul Oct 2015 #75

This is one of those things America does not need to export to the world. Dawson Leery Oct 2015 #56

k&rto Australia LW1977 Oct 2015 #57

K & R SunSeeker Oct 2015 #58

We all need to tell the NRA Fuck You. Hey NRA - Fuck You. whereisjustice Oct 2015 #67

but gunz make me feel manly!!!!!!!!!! bumprstickr Oct 2015 #76