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villager

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Wed Oct 7, 2015, 12:16 PM Oct 2015

5 Indefensible Tweets From The NRA Since The Oregon Gun Massacre [View all]

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By Monday, the NRA twitter account was aggressively tweeting out information intended to head off any efforts to increase gun control in the wake of the massacre at Umpqua Community College. Much of this information, however, was wildly misleading or just plain inaccurate.

Here are five of the NRA’s most egregious recent tweets:

1. There is no gun show loophole.

There is a gun show loophole. At gun shows, unlicensed sellers can sell guns without any background check, waiting period, or paperwork. These are referred to as “private sales.” There are thousands of gun shows in the United States each year.
These unregulated “private sales” of guns also take place on the internet or other physical locations. The NRA disingenuously claims that these additional loopholes mean that there isn’t a specific gun show loophole.

2. The Australian gun buyback didn’t work.

After a gun massacre in Australia in 1996, the government “instituted a temporary gun buyback program that took some 650,000 assault weapons (about one-sixth of the national stock) out of public circulation.” At the same time, the government banned semi-automatic rifles and tightened licensing requirements.

A 2011 Harvard University study concluded that the buyback program was “incredibly successful in terms of lives saved.” There have been no gun massacres — defined as the killing of four or more people at once — in the 17 years since the buyback took place. There were 13 gun gun massacres in the 18 years piror to the program.

Additionally, the number of firearm suicides and homicides was reduced dramatically. This reduction was directly tied to the buyback program. The Harvard study found that “the drop in firearm deaths was largest among the type of firearms most affected by the buyback” and “firearm deaths in states with higher buyback rates per capita fell proportionately more than in states with lower buyback rates.”

The article cited by the NRA does not dispute the reduction in firearm deaths after the buyback program but simply asserts, without much analysis, that the drop was a coincidence. It relies almost exclusively on a deeply flawed study produced by the Australian gun lobby.

3. Gun free zones are magnets for murderers.

86 percent of mass shootings occur outside of gun-free zones. Studies have found no evidence that people purposely choose gun-free zones for mass shootings. Rather, there is usually another clear motive for the choice of location. In most school shootings, for example, “the killers had personal ties to the school they struck..."

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http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/10/07/3709919/tweets-nra-oregon-shooting/

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the merchants of death have to keep their phony baloney jobs spanone Oct 2015 #1
The merchants of death seem to have quite a lot of support in that regard... villager Oct 2015 #2
Corporate McPravda and Flackadamia... Octafish Oct 2015 #8
I've read a few of those talking points on a certain progressive forum, as a matter of fact... Orrex Oct 2015 #3
Oh, the parrots are quite dutiful in their regurgitations... villager Oct 2015 #5
The solution to gun shows is simple hack89 Oct 2015 #4
But guns! Orrex Oct 2015 #6
If you shut down gun shows then you simply make policing gun sales harder hack89 Oct 2015 #7
We've basically been over this already Orrex Oct 2015 #15
So lets work together on UBCs hack89 Oct 2015 #16
Yes, let's work together on UBCs villager Oct 2015 #20
My state has had them for a while now hack89 Oct 2015 #21
Do you make this known publicly in forums *with* your fellow gun owners? villager Oct 2015 #25
DU is the only place I regularly post about guns hack89 Oct 2015 #26
Well, you need to start working on your fellow pro-gunners, I suspect villager Oct 2015 #27
All the gun owners I know well live in New England hack89 Oct 2015 #28
Well no, you can keep posting here on generally pro gun control sites villager Oct 2015 #29
It is not that big a deal to us hack89 Oct 2015 #30
It's a big deal to some of us -- and public gun owner support would have an an outsize impact villager Oct 2015 #31
That's nice nt hack89 Oct 2015 #32
Favorite group Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #33
Ok. Orrex Oct 2015 #22
yep since it is Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #9
As we discussed in the gungeon sarisataka Oct 2015 #10
Personally, I am for restricting concealed carrry permits to trained professionals Maedhros Oct 2015 #12
I'm afraid that cat sarisataka Oct 2015 #23
I just don't trust people to pack weapons with them 24-7. Maedhros Oct 2015 #24
I look forward, then, to the networking and lobbying you'll be undertaking with fellow gun owners villager Oct 2015 #19
There no longer is an NRA. Archae Oct 2015 #11
I assume your accompanying image is meant ironically, Archae, but I wouldn't be surprised villager Oct 2015 #14
According to a few conservatives, Jesus would want more guns Archae Oct 2015 #17
You can't be the Prince of Peace unless you come strapped! villager Oct 2015 #18
Bookmarked underpants Oct 2015 #13
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