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TheSarcastinator

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5. Discuss what, precisely?

Wed Oct 7, 2015, 01:04 PM

Oct 2015

Should we discuss the use of the red herring in rhetoric? Or should we instead focus on the astonishing amount of cognitive dissonance and motivated reasoning present in the mind of the average American gun-humper?

Please tell -- the tension is unbearable.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] mmonk Oct 2015 OP

Discuss? Why? We don't have a bow and arrow problem. bowens43 Oct 2015 #1

No need. Just providing an example of people here mmonk Oct 2015 #3

yeah, you failed TheSarcastinator Oct 2015 #7

How so? mmonk Oct 2015 #13

Because I still can't work out what your OP has to do with your reply #3 muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #52

Oh I see. Obviously I didn't look at it that way. mmonk Oct 2015 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2015 #2

Right answer. mmonk Oct 2015 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Bad Thoughts Oct 2015 #54

If laid on a picnic table do any of them go off accidentally if a child picks one up? -none Oct 2015 #80

Could you take a couple of them into a movie theater and kill 20 people? Darb Oct 2015 #89

Consider my reply hidden by a jury. edhopper Oct 2015 #4

No I am Spartacus! Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #26

Can I be Sporticus? Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #68

That is a very obscure reference edhopper Oct 2015 #79

I'm more a Game of Thrones guy, but hey. Who doesn't love puppets and a sports mascot in a blimp? nt Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #81

with one pink haired girl edhopper Oct 2015 #91

That's okay. Robbie Rotten more than makes up for the overly-pink hair. n/t Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #94

Discuss what, precisely? TheSarcastinator Oct 2015 #5

How many schools were shot up with arrows? upaloopa Oct 2015 #6

And it would be hard to commit suicide leftyladyfrommo Oct 2015 #8

Probably quite easy with a crossbow. Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2015 #11

Suicide by cross bow? leftyladyfrommo Oct 2015 #17

Just because I was curious... Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #21

Gees. That one guy didn't kill himself leftyladyfrommo Oct 2015 #24

Is that a double cross? Orrex Oct 2015 #34

Happened to my mate, with a 12 gauge shotgun at point blank. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #38

Man, talk about overkill. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2015 #82

Yup. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #93

For the average user, they're harder to fire one-handed Orrex Oct 2015 #9

As do swords. KamaAina Oct 2015 #12

. mmonk Oct 2015 #15

Oh, my! Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #20

Knife-wielding separatists... attack in Xinjiang that killed at least 50 Bonx Oct 2015 #65

You gotta be talking about Cohen and Sons. n/t reflection Oct 2015 #74

I forget the name, but it was on Royal or Chartres around St. Louis or Toulouse. KamaAina Oct 2015 #75

Yes, I believe that's it then. reflection Oct 2015 #76

Hey at least it's not another gun thread NightWatcher Oct 2015 #16

Not necessarily. mmonk Oct 2015 #22

Same here. I've never humped any of mine NightWatcher Oct 2015 #28

I understand completely. mmonk Oct 2015 #30

IF you were to hump your guns i do hope they are not loaded dembotoz Oct 2015 #47

LOL. Nope, don't hump them. Haven't fired any shots from them for years either. mmonk Oct 2015 #96

And try to make it an old Browning Auto 5 Humpback. 12 ga.... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #97

I saw that! Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #29

Effective, maybe loyalsister Oct 2015 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author frizzled Oct 2015 #19

Well, the effective killing range of most bows and foster shotgun slugs is about the same. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #27

That nice man deleted and never came back... :( n/t Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #70

You're right in that the thread seems to be for people outside basic understanding of physics. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #37

Guns pose a practical social problem. Arrows, a hypothetical one. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2015 #23

Only because they were invented. mmonk Oct 2015 #31

True... the invention of a Klingon disruptor pistol will make firearm regulation less urgent. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2015 #35

. mmonk Oct 2015 #100

Or a hard on leftyladyfrommo Oct 2015 #86

Maybe that's why tailors never ask me that question. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2015 #87

. mmonk Oct 2015 #102

Yes, those bow and arrow massacres have been out of control lately. zappaman Oct 2015 #25

As ridiculous as lumping all gun owners together as a homogeneous group. mmonk Oct 2015 #32

Gun trolling. Gormy Cuss Oct 2015 #33

How precisely does one sneak into a grade school LanternWaste Oct 2015 #36

Hypothetical: Gather an army of 100 people tkmorris Oct 2015 #39

Oddly, I'd put that fight at 50/50. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author Lint Head Oct 2015 #40

Not really, compared to firearms. bluedigger Oct 2015 #42

A brief point about close quarters... Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #44

Next time I meet a home invader on an open field of battle I'll keep that in mind. bluedigger Oct 2015 #69

Snark all you like, I was just correcting your error. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #71

Here's a fun vid. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #73

It's good advice if the home invader is armed with a halberd or mace. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2015 #88

they do not have rapid fire DonCoquixote Oct 2015 #43

Reloading time reduces the firepower Warpy Oct 2015 #45

Of course. I mean, there were tens of thousands of deaths attributed to bows and arrows last year. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2015 #46

My 14yo grandson wants a sword like Mishonne, but has great admiration for Darryl. Glad he likes Mnemosyne Oct 2015 #56

I'll be completely honest, in the event of a zombie apocolypse, my views on gun ownership..... Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2015 #60

That's about how long I give it too. I have an axe and a baseball bat. nt Mnemosyne Oct 2015 #63

Have a bunch of swords. Xyzse Oct 2015 #78

But it's an intention thing, right? mmonk Oct 2015 #104

No, they really don't. Certainly not compared to guns. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #48

have there been 85000 archery deaths since sandy hook? dembotoz Oct 2015 #49

They also require more skill and strength to effectively use. haele Oct 2015 #50

Bows require a modicum of skill to use effectively. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2015 #51

I feel sick everytime there's a bow and arrow mass killing in this country. Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #53

Why don't modern militaries use bows and arrows? Discuss. eom. Bad Thoughts Oct 2015 #55

Ah, you put this post down here. :) To answer your question, they do. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #57

Yet there more likely to arm soldiers with rifles Bad Thoughts Oct 2015 #59

Oh, of course. Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #61

So, how do you walk into a school Kelvin Mace Oct 2015 #58

Bows and arrows do not kill in an efficient manner. Paladin Oct 2015 #62

Anyone need some butter? Initech Oct 2015 #64

Pass some here? Decoy of Fenris Oct 2015 #67

Unless you are using masses of archers, as they did at Agincourt Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #66

I was just reading something about crossbows leftyladyfrommo Oct 2015 #83

Absolutely. The National Field Archery Association lobby MineralMan Oct 2015 #72

Coming soon to a mass shooting near you ... GeorgeGist Oct 2015 #77

Cleaner too. The 'Alternative Energy' of deadly weapons ? Bonx Oct 2015 #84

That's very true. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2015 #85

They also require a slight bit more skill to use than a gun. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #90

I don' want to gang up on you mmonk olddots Oct 2015 #92

It's a communication thing. mmonk Oct 2015 #103

Fuck silent. I prefer hand grenades. hunter Oct 2015 #98

But can you hunt with them? mmonk Oct 2015 #105

They don't have killer clipizines and things that go up....not scary enough. ileus Oct 2015 #99

This thread, in this environment, is ill-advised to say the least. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #101

I'll gladly shut it down. mmonk Oct 2015 #106

OK, this thread was definitely interesting. mmonk Oct 2015 #107